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    1) BioPlast brought in a Korean brand. 2 models, 1 for < or = 4ft tanks, 1 for > 4ft tanks. They say it's designed with a larger compressor, making it more efficient for tropical countries. When I was there, their's was running and I could barely hear it. The thermostat is set at 0.5 tolerance, so it kicks in once the temp is 0.5 degrees celsius or more higher then the set temp - means it runs more often, but for a shorter periodeach time. Don't think that setting can be changed.

    2) New local designed one just entered the market. Designed by someone in the commercial refrigeration business. European parts, large compressor, price comparable to Hailea. See sgreef.com for more info.
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    I think the local design w the titanium coil look good. Wonder how much.

    How much HP is needed for a 4 footer n 5 footer?

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    overheard: $1500 thereabouts. (for 1.25 HP) which is cheap.

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    I'm waiting for the review. Maybe I'll go down coming weekend to check it out.
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    Do u use HP or watts as a guage to use for wat size of tank?? Can 0.5 or 0.75hp suitable for 4 footer or 5 footer?? Or different brands got different rating? Wah, read so many article seems like all different recomendation by user, v confuse....

    Can someone enlighten me . Thanks.

    Wat is the address of this shop(the pasir ris one). Mayb can get more info from them.

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    loupgarou, I agree w u it is mmmm..much cheaper than others. Wat abt 0.5 n 0.75 HP chiller? For 5 ft can? Do u noe the price? Thanks.

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    Popped by Ocean Planet just now. They had one of the local ones, but not installed yet. Shop owner says hobbyists who have tried it gave good feedback. Large but more efficient and saves on elec bill.

    According to the shop owner, 1HP for a 6footer without MH. With MH, 1.25HP.

    I've not decided to purchase a chiller yet, but the shop is willing to give a better price for bulk orders. Unfortunately, stocks are low, may take a week or more to get them.
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    vinz, can 1 say 0.5hp for 4 ft, 0.75 for 5 ft n 1 hp for 5 ft. Do noe how much for 5 footer(0.75hp)? Mayb can pm me for privacy. Will respect if u want to keep it to yrself. Me also deciding whether can afford to buy or not. Thanks.

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    take note that if you're using the teco charts to compare. singapore ambient temperature is like 34C... (and more likely to increase as the years go by..damm global warming..)

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    IVanilla, check pm pls.
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    Hi vinz,

    I'm currently using RA240 for my 4ft but thinking of upgrading to 1 HP model (match TECO model RA680?). Do you know what is the price? also, where is the address, need to go down and take a look. Appreciate if you can advise.

    Rgds

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    Hi wangzx, being browsing around, noticed that u had used a numerous types of chiller or different brands. Why do u keep going back to teco. I noe teco is branded n reliable. Wat other advantages hav u observed? Can share it w us?

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    To purchase a chiller, most impt. is to find a reliable & economy type. TECO so far is rated the best interms of reliablility and power consumption save. Compare to other brands I used, it is ture. Other brands usually required high power consumption to chill the water which long run is not worth. PUB rate now is very high! The new chiller I heard is better than TECO, but personaly, yet to see that in action. Chiller performance also will determined by the ambient/water temperature, insulation of the tank, volume of the tank and chiller termperature hysteresis. Info. from sgreef which is very correct. Depend on what usage you need like in FW or SW, type of equipments install in your tank and look for a chiller that can support your requirement. Tumb of the rule is - Buy a chiller must always min. 1 HP higher. Eg. 3ft go for a chiller that can support up to 4-5ft. My problem is always like to add additional equipments in my reef tank and endup got problem of other equipment can not support. Poor planning!!!!! Dun follow my foot step.....
    FYI, there is another brand is coming out very soon. Also local made. Price wise should be able to match the current local chiller but chiller power is much higher. Value for $. Heard they only have one model which power rated 1.25HP above. 6-7 ft easily.
    Let just wait and see.....

    Rgds

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    Other brands usually required high power consumption to chill the water which long run is not worth.

    Normally, when the equipment is rated higher wattage, the component or compressor that it is using will be bigger and take shorter time rite, how come it takes longer time to cool down. Thus save money mah?? Am I rite?



    The new chiller I heard is better than TECO, but personaly, yet to see that in action.

    Does this local brand got a brand? Seems like more 'local brand' is comming out. Me a bit sotong liao.



    FYI, there is another brand is coming out very soon. Also local made. Price wise should be able to match the current local chiller but chiller power is much higher. Value for $. Heard they only have one model which power rated 1.25HP above. 6-7 ft easily.
    Let just wait and see.....

    Cheers for the local manufacturers!!! Hope they can built a energy efficient, low noise, high capacity, small size.......Chiller. KEKE.[]


    Thanks!

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    yeah. I'm waiting, if got like 1.25 HP under 1000 I probably will get.. heh

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    Normally, when the equipment is rated higher wattage, the component or compressor that it is using will be bigger and take shorter time rite, how come it takes longer time to cool down. Thus save money mah?? Am I rite
    - Not readi ture on got higer watt will cool the water faster. It depend on the design of the chiller as a whole than impact the efficient of the chiller. A lot of details tech. that I dun think I in the good position to advise.

    Does this local brand got a brand? Seems like more 'local brand' is comming out. Me a bit sotong liao
    - Have but I just know is Titanium / Reef Relief.

    Hope they can built a energy efficient, low noise, high capacity, small size.......Chiller
    - Energy efficient, low noise and high capacity possible but not the size due to the size of the compressor.

    Rgds

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    Compressor: A compressor is not cold the moment it is turn on. It will needs time to "cool down" before it can reduce the temperature of the water. Bare in mind that this process will comsume the most power and it depends on how long it needs to chill the coils, like people comparing how many seconds needed for a car to reach 100km/h.The shorter, the better.

    Insulation: The ability to retain coolness
    If the Chiller is not designed and manufacture using the correct materials, the lousy insulation will means more power required to keep the temperature of the coils itself down. Probably you will have to insulate every single tubings as well for ideal condition.

    Power: The wattage means the power required to drive the compressor. It directly means pay more bills to PUB, BUT might not be true if the top two criteria is met, compared to others whom failed them.

    Noise: as far as I understand, it is mainly caused by the internal fan use to cool the heat generated from the compressor. You should experience less noise if the manufacturers use Brushless fan.

    Heat: If the chiller and fish tank is placed in a enclosed room, the heat generated could raise the ambient temperature, and later the water in the tank. This could means more power comsumed again. It would be affected by heat source from lights
    as well.

    Size
    The smaller the size, the harder it is for the internal heat within the chiller to be distributed into the ambient. The heat might affect the coolness of the coils, thus requring more power to lower the temperature again.

    Well, all this factors could affect your monthly bills. Though I used to worked in a compressor factory(National along Bedok), I am never a specialist. Above all, technologies improves everyday and could deny my statements like how the Wright Brothers denying the whole world, humans can fly.....
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    i would take any claim 'my chiller is more efficient and cheaper that brand xxx' with a pinch of salt. chilling technology is not new and is more or less optimised. efficiency may be improved by the use of better materials or insulation but better stuff don't come cheap. and made in singapore does not mean cheap too, more expensive in fact due to much higher labour cost compared to china.

    one way to run a chiller and minimise the running cost is to isulate all 4 sides of your tank as well as the inlet and outlet pipes. the front glass insulator is removable.
    thomas liew

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    Thanks to wang and goon for sharing.

    Seems like more n more LFS is selling chillers now. Lets hope d price will drop a bit but nevertheless, it seems like the temp is lower this few days cheers[]

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    2) New local designed one just entered the market. Designed by someone in the commercial refrigeration business. European parts, large compressor, price comparable to Hailea. See sgreef.com for more info.

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    The specification and price of this new chiller is out.
    Check it out at sgreefclub.com

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