Filter and chiller selection

[jiajuen900]

Hi everyone, planning for june project on a standard 2ft

Planning to get my first chiller

for 2ft what is a good chiller and eheim filter combo.

Budget of about $300+ for chiller and $200 for filter. ( remembered a chiller at NA for about $200 plus, anyone know what brand)

Is the budget too tight? Also is it okay to go without a external temperature sensor if i get filter with higher flowrate.

Another question, does the below reduce or affect the flowrate significantly?

Tank -> Eheim filter -> chiller -> ISTA co2 reactor -> tank

Thanks

[sfk7]

If you were to depend on a filter and connect chiller and reactor, i guess you'll need at least a 2026 or 2217 to get enough flow.

What i would recommend is a seperate pump for the chiller and reactor like the eheim compact but no doubt it'll take up space in your tank.

Would suggest dennerle cyclo as reactor as its the most efficient co2 mixer in my opinion. Comes at a premium though.

[Gexrian]

Also what are you planning to keep?

[jiajuen900]

just high tech planted and probably some shrimps but no crs. Hight tech = high ferts which is a nono for crs

sfk7 : You mean get 2 filters?

still looking for advice on which chiller to get and price of 2026 or 2217 ( Where is the best place to get NA? )

[BFG]

For a standard off the shelf 2ft, a 1/10hp chiller would do. Do not buy a peltier chiller as our climate is not suitable for this type of chiller. If you do get the chiller and canister filter from Nature, might as well get their external co2 reactor.


Hope this helps!

[sfk7]

no, not a seperate filter but of course that is another alternative.

Another pump / powerhead for the reactor and chiller

[jiajuen900]

Okay thanks guys. I may get a HAILEA HC chiller 1/10hp. Saw it on midroi website

Still can anyone quote me prices and brands besides HAILEA for chiller.
also price for 2026 and 2217 at NA or Seaview

Regarding chiller, what does 1/10hp mean, is it related to power consumtion. Im very unsure how to attach my own external thermometer, is this a must?

I also read that only Teco and Artica chillers have the temperature sensor at the inlet but others have it inside the cooling chamber. Is there need for external temperature sensor is i have srong flow rate?

Seriously thanks

[BFG]

Having an external temperature sensor is better in that the chiller is reading the water temperature in the tank instead of from it's own cooling chamber. The idea of having a chiller is to chill the water in the tank.

The 1/10hp refer to the horse power of the chiller. It is an understanding that the reference to a certain horse power meant that the chiller could chill a certain amount of body of water. We do not use wattage as a reference as manufacture have different design from one brand to another.

Hope this helps!

[jiajuen900]

Thanks BFG for teaching.
I may get HAILEA 100A or 150A from NA.

As for external temperature sensor, may add one. Has anyone had experience with these? What about power consumtion

[mikeang]

Hi BFG,

May I ask what is the running cost like for a chiller of maybe 1/10 or 1/20 HP enough to be used for a 1feet shrimp tank?

I experimented with a fan, managed to only cool the tank down from 30.5 to 27.8 at max.

Thanks

Thanks

Having an external temperature sensor is better in that the chiller is reading the water temperature in the tank instead of from it's own cooling chamber. The idea of having a chiller is to chill the water in the tank.

The 1/10hp refer to the horse power of the chiller. It is an understanding that the reference to a certain horse power meant that the chiller could chill a certain amount of body of water. We do not use wattage as a reference as manufacture have different design from one brand to another.

Hope this helps!

[BFG]

Can't remember how much my 1/10hp running cost was but I believe to be less than $50? Never use a 1/20hp chiller though.

[jiajuen900]

Another question

whats the reccomended flowrate (from eheim filters ) to run a hailea 100A

would a 2217 be a overkill on a 2ft?

Also can i use one filter and connect it to co2 reactor and chiller? If so what is the best way to connect them ?

THANKS

[BFG]

My previous set up-

tank--canister filter--external co2 reactor--chiller--tank

The external co2 reactor before the chiller is to ensure that the longer path to the tank would help the co2 to be better absorbed in the water while the chiller after the co2 reactor would ensure that the water would not lost it's coldness due to the short distance of the chiller to the tank. Try not to exceed the 6ft distance of this close loop.


Hope this helps!

[Fuzzy]

Your budget looks great, I also suggest going for a Hailea HC-100A or 150A.

Any eheim canister with a flow rate rated around 650 - 800 L/hr should be ideal for your 2ft setup.

For a 2ft tank, unless you intend to maintain temps way below 24C, the HC-100A should be more than enough.

I'd recommend avoiding the ISTA reactor, I've had too many problems with those in the past.

Consider going with the NA CO2 Reactor, or some other brand instead.

[jiajuen900]

yup thanks,
Ive decided to go for a hailea 100A.
The ISTA reactor because i am already using one on another setup. But ive heard NA co2 reactor is good. Where can i get it?

p.s. all will be for 2ft project during june

[ranmasatome]

If you look at the buy and sell market area today... there is a person selling exactly what you want.
And you can get it all including the reactor for about $150.