Betta coccina

**Emokidz** · 6th Aug 2011, 23:39

Hi all, just sharing some pictures of the Betta coccina gotten from Y618 earlier last month; and also to promote the wild betta hobby. They have coloured up and started flaring. Don't intend to try breeding them thouhg. Another beautiful species from the Coccina Complex.

The irids are beautiful, also have 2 red lines on the operculum. Different from burdigala in terms of dorsal spread and extent of irids.
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A pair flaring. Male (left, longer and more tappered dorsal, more irids along fins and body, longer pelvic fins) and Female (right; plumber and can see egg spot from side view).

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The whole colony weaving around the java fern.
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Soil: ADA Amazonia II
pH: 5.5
Bi-Weekly partial water changes to maintain the water quality.

Diet: Tubifex/Daphnia/BBS (Frozen and Live)

**similus** · 7th Aug 2011, 13:07

Nice. Got mine from 328.

**similus** · 7th Aug 2011, 13:34

I wonder if we can still instill breeding while they are kept in a colony especially for bubble nester?

**Emokidz** · 7th Aug 2011, 14:16

Possible. That's how it is in the wild. But I guess you'd have to do away with the filter and have multiple sites for nests and for the males to draw out territorial boundaries. But with that many bettas in a tank, not having a filter isn't very wise unless you're really careful with your feeding and water change regimes.

**Mudskipper** · 7th Aug 2011, 19:19

Very nice photos and setup. They are beautiful fishes. Wonder why they're so affordable, could it be that they are still really abundant in the wild?

What filter do you use? Is it that strong that it would cause havoc if they do breed? I guess with bubblenesters, they would prefer very slow flowing water. Or maybe even still water.

**Emokidz** · 7th Aug 2011, 19:35

I'm using a sponge filter, the ones with curved tops that kind of function like HOFs, with water coming out instead of bubbles. Any filter would cause the water surface to vibrate in my opinion. In nature there will be twigs and growth of vegetation to block this, probably not in a tank. Yup, somehow they get induced when water is still and conditions are right.

**Mudskipper** · 8th Aug 2011, 06:53

Hmmm, never heard of that filter...interesting. I use sponge filters for my channoides too...but I think they like water flowing cause when it's set too low, they do nothing. When it's set too fast, they panic. But when it is just "right" they get all worked up and breed. I've switched most of the tanks on the rack to just sponges...seem to work just fine. I think the difference with bubblenesters is their eggs are on the surface and probably somewhat more delicate. Interesting though. It's good to learn something new everyday.

**Fendi** · 8th Aug 2011, 10:45

very nice bro your coccinas

...mine went up to betta heaven already...only getting fat and bigger are my rasboras....

**Mudskipper** · 8th Aug 2011, 17:33

Oh no! What happened? That is really sad.

**Emokidz** · 8th Aug 2011, 20:45

Originally Posted by Fendi

very nice bro yr coccinas

...mine went up to betta heaven already...only getting fat and bigger are my rasboras....

Oh I'm very sorry to hear that. They are afterall, such rare and beautiful fish.
Any clue to what they died of?

**Fendi** · 9th Aug 2011, 08:55

Originally Posted by Mudskipper

Oh no! What happened? That is really sad.

yup its very sad for me..bro Mudskipper.

Originally Posted by Emokidz

Oh I'm very sorry to hear that. They are afterall, such rare and beautiful fish.
Any clue to what they died of?

really no clue bro..died with fin clamp like syndrome...did not check water perimeters any way..what puzzles me..like i say my rasboras are getting fatter and bigger...
really envy you by looking your coccinas pics...hope they breed for you in the near future..
cheers..

**johannes** · 10th Aug 2011, 16:08

You can see the major difference between Betta coccina from Jambi and Ayer Hitam.
Those from Ayer Hitam exhibit a dark green spot (something like B. brownorum) on the flank instead of green iridiscence patch.