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[EdwinTay]

hi bro Venom

First you killed the trifasciata female, now the Hongsloi & Elizabethae fries....

Seriously, you saw my set-up right? - very simple (albeit dirty). Sometimes, try not to bother too much...get worried for nothing. There have been many occasions where I thought the fries died but all of a sudden, they re-appeared again. For instance, I have a batch of Mamore fries (the mother one eye blind but still can breed) which I have not seen for 4-5 days. However, I do expect to see them alive at some time in the near future.

Scientifically, I think there following are plausible causes for the deaths of yr fries;
1) They were sick (although the parents were OK) or,
2) somehow, the water parameters changed too drastically for their fragile bodies or,
3) yr tank too clean - no micro-organisms at all

bro Illumnae

Looks like we (you, bro Joopsg & I) are all in the same boat for our Adoketas. Let's have a side bet - whoever's Adoketa spawn successfully first give the other 2 a treat- being the proud father.

[joopsg]

Hey.. i already father. Should be granddad..

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[joopsg]

Well... i think illumnae got higher chance...
Don't forget mordrake also get a pair.

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[mobile2007]

Venom, in order to maximise the surivival rate of your fries, it's best to hatch baby brine shrimp. The feeding by the mother fish is inconsistent, some will do that some wont. Also, the fries will feed on bbs based on instinct. i.e. moving and wriggling

that is what i thought too.
been observing the female doing that.. my elizabethae male does it as well.
but i cannot find any issue on why my fries are not surviving.

[mordrake]

Well... i think illumnae got higher chance...
Don't forget mordrake also get a pair.

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My pair very young la. Underage

[huhengyi1986]

Share share someone breed adoketas in another forum in SG. Replied about the water parameters, maybe u guys can ask more

http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=521121

[EdwinTay]

hi bros

With rgds to Adoketa - Thanks, bro Huhengyi1986. And, so, is the spawning challenge on - Joopsg, Illumnae & Modrake?

With rgds to fries, actually I never hatched bbs. I used to keep bettas - believe me, the fries were even harder to keep alive because they will only attack moving food & their mouths are too small for many food (except infusoria). Apistos fries I find not much problem.

[venom]

i feed my female everyday.. can see that it keep chewing the food and alot of crushed food came out from its gills.
am very sad when see my fries dying

[joopsg]

I am cool with it.

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[EdwinTay]

The Adoketa Challenge

bros Modrake & Illumnae how?

BTW, my pair are about 5-6 inches & I think around 8 months old.

[joopsg]

Mine should be around the same...

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[mordrake]

5-6inches! My ado only 3-4.
Still long way to go.

[joopsg]

You took the smaller pair

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[illumnae]

I'll pass haha, keeping and breeding fish is a hobby and should be relaxing. Competition too stressful liao. Plus my adoketa are wc so harder to spawn 2 people I know who got their pairs from JZX just before Christmas already had their pairs lay eggs. My understanding is that the other 2 pairs ended up being purchased as tankmates for an aggressive comm tank, so likelihood of spawning is really low. So for that JZX batch of cb adults, I'd say it's 2 out of 2 pairs successfully spawned within a month.

Based on experiences of friends who keep adoketa, it's not a challenge to get them to spawn, especially the cb ones. you can see bro doppelbanddwarf's cb group from stones... so young already pair up and lay eggs. He has had success with getting a previous bonded pair to lay eggs too several times. The problem is in getting a viable batch of eggs, as adoketa eggs seem to require alot of care and ideal water parameters in order to hatch.

[venom]

i feed my female everyday.. can see that it keep chewing the food and alot of crushed food came out from its gills.
am very sad when see my fries dying

anyone would advise me on what wrong with my tank that my fries unable to survive?
crushed powdered dried food given.. with moss type on driftwood..

[s9534891b]

Just to share one thing,from my personal point of view, i felt that many of the aquarium shop would provide apistogramma, cause recently, i do see a trend in people buying them.

[EdwinTay]

anyone would advise me on what wrong with my tank that my fries unable to survive?
crushed powdered dried food given.. with moss type on driftwood..

hi bro Venom

1) Do a 100% water change (either age water or put anti-chrorine & antichroromine). Clean out tank completely - including plants, filter etc. by soaking for 1-2 hours in salt water. I suspect that there are pathogens which attack the weak fries,
2) Once the "new" tank is set up, let it settle for 4-5 days before attempting to breed (to let infusoria etc. develop). Make sure tank is in a place with some sun & open air,
3) For the next batch of fries, try NOT to overfeed as uneaten food decays. In my case, I feed them every two days,
4) try not to be too concerned - the irony is that the more worried you are, the more likely you will lose the fries.

[venom]

hi bro Venom

1) Do a 100% water change (either age water or put anti-chrorine & antichroromine). Clean out tank completely - including plants, filter etc. by soaking for 1-2 hours in salt water. I suspect that there are pathogens which attack the weak fries,
2) Once the "new" tank is set up, let it settle for 4-5 days before attempting to breed (to let infusoria etc. develop). Make sure tank is in a place with some sun & open air,
3) For the next batch of fries, try NOT to overfeed as uneaten food decays. In my case, I feed them every two days,
4) try not to be too concerned - the irony is that the more worried you are, the more likely you will lose the fries.

ok. thanks for the advice bro.
currently my hongsloi female still taking care of the 3 remaining fries..
look fatter than earlier..
guess i gonna do a wc for my elizabethae tank.

[illumnae]

Venom, Don't forget bottled bb to ensure your tank gets cycled asap after the reset.

Guys, Apistogramma baenschi (wc) expected at JZX very soon! Those interested in this species get ready your running shoes to cheong down!

[venom]

Venom, Don't forget bottled bb to ensure your tank gets cycled asap after the reset.

Guys, Apistogramma baenschi (wc) expected at JZX very soon! Those interested in this species get ready your running shoes to cheong down!

thanks bro.
any other species?