Reply With Quoteguys you can get apistos from bro scope also. just got a pair of Apisto. Diplotaenia from him!
hi guys
Very glad the apistos interest is back.
My 18-tank set-up is in full swing - fish are relatively stable. The only problem, I can't find my fish....Most of my tanks are the Gex S size. For substrate, I put black ada soil. Inside the tanks, I put 1 cave & 2 java fern-tied-to-wood, some tanks even have hornwort. I stacked them in 5 shelves but, with the narrower side facing out. So, most of the time, cannot see the fish..haha. The only time I get to see them is when I feed them. I figured I should give them another 2-3 weeks to settle down before they are less shy. I will try to post some photos asap.
Benjamin - great to have met you. I wanted the adokata too but, due to the size of my tanks, size of fish & the aggressive nature of the fish AND, the need to reserve some tanks for more apistos, I have to pass. There are some of the other latacara & nanacara which I am relative keen on - not the anomala & the commonly-available "Sheepheads".
Growing old with this forum.. :)
guys you can get apistos from bro scope also. just got a pair of Apisto. Diplotaenia from him!
Adoketa, Breitbinden, Paciquamis, Diplotaenia, Elizabethae, Mendezi, Inka, Agassizi, L046, L066, Crystal Red Shrimps
Bro Edwin,
Nice collection you have, good for you can have so many, so envy
hi All
bro Marle - ah so...that was you.
bro fhan - thanks, will try to post photos asap. But, I think I got a problem - I am an apisto hoarder. I just got a pair each of elizabethae & uaupesi from Scope. The uaupesi are the best I have seen in real life. As I mentioned before, I prefer the broad body type such as Hongsloi. However, sometimes cannot pass on the long body type - I am a sucker for finnage.
At this juncture, if you guys don't mind, I would like to make some suggestions to enhance apistos keeping & keep it fun (afterall that's what hobbies are for). I think we have to treat each other fairly, especially in relation to buying & selling. Whether the seller is commercial or not, they do take risks (as apistos are had to come by & not popular). So i believe that buyers should honour their commitments to the sellers. i know us buyers always look for the best (i.e. cheapest) deals. But, once committed to seller, buyers should honour. For sellers, they should not short change buyers (e.g. sick fish) & ensure they have reliable sources of fish. For instance, I have been trying to generate mass order but, after talking to a few people, I find that the best way is to do it via LFS. So, I have talked to some friendly LFS & given them my interest list, suggested pricing & estimated total demand. This should enable them to do their own maths & benefit all apistos keepers.
I look forward to more interest in apistos & perhaps share "trade secrets" & swap stories online or at some informal kopi sessions. In my case, after 2 consecutive weekends of farm tours with my betta-mad friend, I found TWO rather old & tired looking cacas at a Pasir Ris farm (forgot the name but it looks like a smaller version of Seaview). It is rather ironic as my interest interest in apistos started years ago when I bought a similar looking caca for $7 at an AMK market stall.
I picked up five adoketas yesterday. The fishes were in good condition. A pity I was one of the last to collect I think didn't get to see any of the apistogrammas the rest ordered. I was going to get a pair of paciqamis from bro scope too but too bad they were not in stable condition.
chongyu
hi bro doppelbanddwarf
I was at Stones the first evening. Very amusing to see a few grown-ups staring at small fishes trying to determine sex....Like a Peep Show....I think the fishes also shy...so many eyes looking....no wonder no colour
BTW, now I am aiming for the mouthbrooder complex - Barlowi, sp. Diamond & Kelleri. The trouble is that it's hard to differentiate.
I am wondering if it is possible to cross-breed closely-related species. I myself will never do that but, I am preparing for accidents & also sometimes, supplier mix-up.
By the time I reached yesterday even Angus had left. Edwin did you manage to enquire about the source of the apistos, as in are all the species on the list are farm bred etc. Also I'm curious as to the condition of the fishes when you collected. Is it hard to differentiate males and females.
I think there have been instances of hybridising, for example someone from Thailand has posted about hybridising between two closely related species on apistogramma.com. So it's entirely possible. With so many species on your hand you might want to raise the fry of different separately when they start breeding or only mix fry of species with easily distinguished features.
chongyu
hi bro Doppelbanddwarf
Condition of fishes (2 pairs mamore, 2 pairs caca orange, 1 pair megaptera spangle) are good. I put my cacas in my small office tanks - just took a look at them & they are doing great. Fish shape also OK. Not much problem sexing. Angus mentioned that they are Taiwan fish but I don't think he knows the exact source. My guess is that caca & mamore are farm-bred. The megaptera (which I still believe is breitbinden or broadband) - I am not sure. Angus is new to apistos so bro Misery & me gave him some "tips". Told him to make sure he knows the ph. Apparently, his ph is 7.2+. One of the biggest problem is ph shock. Luckily I asked - Bro Misery (ph below 5), you owe me...haha.....My ph is usually ard 6 to 6.5. If I want to condition to breed, I will lower.
With rgds to hybridising, I think it usually happens if we "force" them. Case to point : put single male of sub-species A with single female of sub-species B together. I think if you put a group of mixed sex, the two sub-species will naturally separately pair off with their own kind.
Hi guys, mind pm me number of bro scope...
I actually accidentally replied to the auto generated notification email using my phone.
As mentioned from earlier the megatepera is a separate species previously known as cf. breitbinden while the species know as breitbinden has not been described. That's what I read as a hobbyist and I guess we can only be sure when he real experts have examined and described the breitbinden. Until then it is best to keep them separate and not interbreed.
As for the adoketas I ordered they were active and started chasing tetras once I introduced them to the tank, even though I was told 3 had perished before I collected. Also thumbs up for Angus for the refund on the spot for perished fish.
chongyu
LIKE!Originally Posted by marle
guys you can get apistos from bro scope also. just got a pair of Apisto. Diplotaenia from him!
chongyu,
What's the sizes of the adoketas?
Roughly 5cm head to tail as stated in the order thread. I would say still semi adults for adoketas.
chongyu
hi bro Doppelbanddwarf - In the first Romer book, Sp. Breitbinden is also known as broadband. The megaptera sure looks like breitbinden, But then, the sp. Diamond & Kelleri also sure looks like Barlowi...shucks!!!! A per yr suggestion, I play safe by putting the breitbinden separate from the megaptera spangle.
Actually, I am wondering how the "experts" distinguish ..do they do DNA testing? In an episode of National Geographic, they found that there were at least two species of electric eels (even though they look similar). The researcher differentiate by comparing their electric pulses.
mer2623, scope is on this forum. I think he will pm you when appropriate.
I second bro Doppelbanddwarf's kudos for Angus. Perhaps he could have given more value added by cooking the dead adokata to let us taste....lol
Still waiting for bro Edwin to post some pictures of his new collection..
Regards,
Misery.
Rats...bro Misery...add pressure. Okay, okay, I try hopefully by next Friday - need to clean tanks a bit first - keep getting algae.
Just took a look at the elizabethae & uaupesi I got from Scope. They are doing very well....Really great fishes...no joke. But...must resist temptation to get more long body fishes to reserve space for my favourites.
By the way, can anyone confirm with me that Apisto. Huascar is also known as Sunrise? And, it is related to Atahualpha a.k.a. Sunset?
Let me start the ball rolling.. Some snapshots of my humble collection..
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All my tanks have algae 😂 left the lights on for 2 days.. And I have bad photography skills..
Regards,
Misery.
I used to keep apisto few yrs back.. now it's so hard to find apisto in lfs
bro Misery - swee...bagus.... Also, you add more pressure for me to show face (my apistos' face) ....
bro Venom - keep coming back to this forum in Aquaticquotient - as we increase the interest in apistos, more lfs will carry - I am sure. It's a matter of demand and supply. Perhaps you can indicate here what species you are interested in. Please read my earlier postings to understand why this is important.
Haha! No pressure bro Edwin, my collection is smaller than yours!
Regards,
Misery.
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