The O shaped mouth is a deformity caused by genetic problem or a disease. There are many instances of farm bred fish that show physical deformities. I saw for myself, a short bodied agassizii Tefe male at C328 once. The O-shaped mouth is found in the blood parrot, which is in itself, a hybrid fish.
If your fish did not eat, then it was suffering from a combination of genetic problems and disease. Wasting disease is caused by internal parasites, that may have been caused by the food they were eating, or contracted from other fish when kept at the LFS or farm. It is not anorexia, but occurs frequently in some fish. I have had guppies and killies waste away in the past, and it was not due to them starving to death, but rather being unable to eat and slowly waste away until death.
The use of an internal bacterial remedy may help in some cases, but some fish are too far beyond help.
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hi guys
I was just joking about anorexia.
Agreed with bro Stormhawk about genetic deformities. A large part is due to in-breeding. From what I know, 3 generations of in-breeding is the maximum before faults beginning to appear. However, I think I read in the Romer book that for apistos, it's 12-13 generations.
Wasting disease is probably a sign of internal problems, as bro Stormhawk said. Unfortunately, it's very hard to detect & even harder to cure.
The way to detect wasting disease is fairly straightforward. Look at the fish that refuse to feed and then take a look at the belly. Slightly sunken would mean that they are suffering from this disease. If treated early, most will recover, but I tend to find that once it occurs, they are usually goners.
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hi bro Stormhawk
Apologies, you are right. What I meant to say is that once the symptoms appear, it's usually too late. Like stage 4 cancer.
am wondering can we keep betta with apisto?
hi Venom
Never tried but the answer should be NO - because the apistos may bite the betta fin.
With regards to the water parameters, should not be a problem as they are both low ph fishes. BTW, I just changed water over the weekend & put in some ketapang leave extract - I think the apistos like it.
i seen apisto caca and betta flare at each other before but did not really fight
may i ask a question.
when the female ready to breed/mate, is there any protruding thing at the bottom?
hi bro Venom
Don't really know about the protruding thing. But 100% sure female will turn very yellow (esp. for trifasciata)
Yes, the ovipositor will appear as a short nub, much like angelfish. However, since they're small, not easy to see. As Edwin said, the best indicator would be the brood coloration that the females take on. Other than being yellow, their pelvic fins will take on a different pattern.
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so far from what i observe.. it have this thing protruding out and yellowish body.. the female keep go in and out of cave.. is this a sign?
hi bro Venom
You may be a father already...
hopefully, so far i yet to see any fries..
happy to announce that my trifa have their baby.. 5 fries only though..
female guarding the babies. can't see much from pic but can see how yellowish the female is.
the father
Nice tank and fish
haha.. thanks... they will be moving to a new bigger tank soon..
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