Attempt 3

[RoyKoh]

Hi guys,

Start this thread to journal my 3rd attempt at planted tank.

Here are the specs of my tank.
Tank Dimensions (LxWxH, specify units): 60x30x36

Number and type of Lighting (FL/PL/MH) : UP Pro Z LED
Age of light bulbs : NEW
No. of hours your lights are on : 8 hours straight 12pm - 8pm

CO2 Injection Rate (bps) : 2.5 BPS
Type of CO2 (DIY/Cylinder) : Cylinder
Method of Injection (e.g. Diffusor/Reactor) : Diffusor

Liquid fertilisers Used (Product name. E.g. Seachem Flourish) : Seachem Excel , Potassium, nitrogen, phosphate, iron, trace.
Fertilization regime (Frequency and amount per dose) : Excel daily 3cc, iron 3cc, trace 4cc twice per week, potassium 2.5cc twice per week, nitrogen 2.5cc twice per week, phosphate 2.5cc twice per week

Other additives (Product name. E.g. Seachem Prime) : API anti cholrine

Type of Filter (overhead/internal/canister, Product name/model if possible) : Canister (Eheim Ecco Pro 130)
When was the filter last washed : Still new, not yet washed.
Filter media used : Eheim substrate pro
When was the media last changed : Still new, not yet changed
What was changed : nothing

Age of setup (i.e. since initial setup or last major re-do ) : 19 June 2013

Water change frequency : Not yet water change
Amount changed : -

Water surface movement (None/gentle/turbulent) : Gentle
Circulation (None/gentle/turbulent) : Gentle

Tank Temperature : 29°c

Chemical Properties (Fill what you can)
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pH : 6.6-6.8
Ammonia : 8.0 ppm
Nitrite :
Nitrate :

Bioload (Number and type of fish and plants)
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Currently only plants,

Glosso, Japanese Hair Grass and others I don't know the names


Describe your problem :
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Glosso melting. High Ammonia reading, Black Algae ?

Here are some of the photo taken

3rd July


3rd July



5th July


7th July - Glosso melted ...

[yiongcs]

the tall plant in the background is cabomba

[RoyKoh]

Thanks for the info : )

the tall plant in the background is cabomba

[limz_777]

install a fan if you have not , it helps a lot

[hirowen]

Are you using Ada soil? If yes it will produce ammonia during the first few weeks. It's recommended to do frequent water changes to reduce the excess ammonia.






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[RoyKoh]

This tank I'm using ANS planta soil. will do water change as soon as possible

[RoyKoh]

install a fan if you have not , it helps a lot

I will, just wondering, will plant thrive better in lower temperature? apply to all plant?

[limz_777]

I will, just wondering, will plant thrive better in lower temperature? apply to all plant?

more to better co2 solubility in lower temp since you are injecting co2

[RoyKoh]

more to better co2 solubility in lower temp since you are injecting co2

Thanks for that info.

Today my Glosso melting spread abit.


The cabomba really grow very fast..

Do you bro throw away the trimming or replant it?

[milk_vanilla]

New tank will preferably to have short light window, like 6 hrs/ day. And you could increase progressively once it's cycled. This mean to keep deactivated algae spores during your tank parameters is heading to equilibrium area.

I suggest you keep multiply these fast growing plants for the time being, this to capped your ammonia from spike level, and you could gradually remove them with your favorite .plants when it's doing well. Alternatively you could in due diligent way do water change 2-3x weekly 50 - 60 %. It might caused troublesome for big tank, but i don't see this reason for 2ft tank.

Enjoy your journey, and keep journals

[RoyKoh]

New tank will preferably to have short light window, like 6 hrs/ day. And you could increase progressively once it's cycled. This mean to keep deactivated algae spores during your tank parameters is heading to equilibrium area.

I suggest you keep multiply these fast growing plants for the time being, this to capped your ammonia from spike level, and you could gradually remove them with your fav.plants when it's doing well. Alternatively you could in due diligent way do water change 2-3x weekly 50 - 60 %. It might caused troublesome for big tank, but i don't see this reason for 2ft tank.

Enjoy your journey, and keep journals

I shall do that, reducing to 6 hours. I have yet to change water since set up.

[hirowen]

You should start trying. I've being cycling my tank for 4 weeks but ammonia still sky high because first 2 weeks I never do water change. Only realize recently that water change is crucial.






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[ngoavl]

Sorry to ask, but the soil is new, I suppose there should not be a need to do water change?


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[felix_fx2]

Center plant is Water wisteria
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/my...hila_difformis

plants melting not more then maybe 10% still can close one eye. but your's is only towards the front correct? might be due to led light spread.
if the current is gentle, try help your co2 by placing diffuser lower while maintaining where it is below now. give longer exposure.
If you can, put a fan up. plants like it cool too

great to see another attempt by you again Roy.

[RoyKoh]

Center plant is Water wisteria
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/my...hila_difformis

Thanks for identify the plant . Water wisteria bubble a lot , but only right side of the tank pearl more, I guess is because of the CO2 distribution ?

plants melting not more then maybe 10% still can close one eye. but your's is only towards the front correct? might be due to led light spread.
if the current is gentle, try help your co2 by placing diffuser lower while maintaining where it is below now. give longer exposure.
If you can, put a fan up. plants like it cool too

My worry is that during the last few hours of the sun, the sunlight will shine into that corner of the tank. Could it be the reason that causes the melting as well ?

I don't quite understand the LED light spread part you mention. Care to explain a little bit more ? Thanks

great to see another attempt by you again Roy.

Thanks felix_fx2 !! Still learning, and realise I really enjoy to see the plants grow.

[hirowen]

Sorry to ask, but the soil is new, I suppose there should not be a need to do water change?


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Depend on what kind of soil. It is well known that brand new Ada soil will consistently release ammonia during first few weeks. If you do a google search, you will see many results regarding this.






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[li_gangyi]

If you can at least temporarily relocate your drop checker more towards the front and bottom, it might give you a better indication if it's due to a lack of circulation/co2 that's affecting the glosso or it's because of lower light.

I have my tank setup so the intake is in front and the outflow is at the back, this makes the water flow at the substrate in front better, you may have to relocate or put in some kinda power head or wave maker at low setting to improve flow there if the issue is insufficient flow/co2.

[RoyKoh]

If you can at least temporarily relocate your drop checker more towards the front and bottom, it might give you a better indication if it's due to a lack of circulation/co2 that's affecting the glosso or it's because of lower light.

I have my tank setup so the intake is in front and the outflow is at the back, this makes the water flow at the substrate in front better, you may have to relocate or put in some kinda power head or wave maker at low setting to improve flow there if the issue is insufficient flow/co2.

Ok bro. You meant the front panel bottom right corner right?

[RoyKoh]

A video update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qBp...e_gdata_player

2 hours Glossop time lapse . Too short to see any difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEiM...e_gdata_player

[hirowen]

Nice. Should do a 8hours time lapse.






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