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    Parameter for shrimp tank?

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    Hi all! I'm a beginner who out of fun and was poison with all the nice picture, started a nano tank few days back. intended for shrimps. I go thru the whole forum for shrimp tank set-up and got more confuse with all the reading. I just like to find out what's the most ideal parameter for a shrimp tank? please help to advise!

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Firstly, welcome to the hobby. Before we can advise you, what shrimps are you intending to keep? Different types of shrimps require different parameters. Just like sulawesi and crs are 2 totally different sort of parameters altogether.

    For a start, i'll personally advice you to start off with a bigger tankset as it may be easier to handle since you are new. Bigger water volume means that parameters will not flactuate too greatly.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jianyuan View Post
    Firstly, welcome to the hobby. Before we can advise you, what shrimps are you intending to keep? Different types of shrimps require different parameters. Just like sulawesi and crs are 2 totally different sort of parameters altogether.

    For a start, i'll personally advice you to start off with a bigger tankset as it may be easier to handle since you are new. Bigger water volume means that parameters will not flactuate too greatly.
    I would like to start off with hardy shrimps like cheery red, sakura.

    I actually did the set up few days back with a spare PVC tank. here are some info of the nano tank.

    Size of tank: 23x23x22cm.
    For base, I use substrate & GEX pure soil. Plants I got petite nana, golden nana, elcocharis and 2 more which I not sure what it is, Got an hang-up filter, fan and a 4.32watt double bright LED light. And kick start the cycle with bb, trace, liquid fertilizer and today add in JBL biotopol C. temperature around 26-28dc. with the fan, think it could go down to 25-26dc. any other I miss out? hope to get more advise.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    firstly, your tank is too small for beginner to control, most would advice 3feet minimum, some say 4, some say 2. but generally speaking, bigger tank makes it easier to control the water parameters and temperature fluctuations won't be that fast. secondly, cycling of the tank is a must, heard that gex soil takes around 3 weeks to cycle. finally. do you want them to survive only, or want them to thrive? both requires different parameters but I think it's not applicable to cherry and sakura grade

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berny View Post
    firstly, your tank is too small for beginner to control, most would advice 3feet minimum, some say 4, some say 2. but generally speaking, bigger tank makes it easier to control the water parameters and temperature fluctuations won't be that fast. secondly, cycling of the tank is a must, heard that gex soil takes around 3 weeks to cycle. finally. do you want them to survive only, or want them to thrive? both requires different parameters but I think it's not applicable to cherry and sakura grade

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    a fellow-up from this http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...g-plastic-tank . at this moment, survivor will do. when I gain experience and confident, then will consider up level. i'm prepare mentally for the worst. consider it a learning stage.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Sakura or cheery red is quite hardy. Keep your tank ph and temperature constant, no drastic fluctuation during water change or top up (with small volume). Tank well cycle. I guess they should be fine. Don't load too many shrimps from the start.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Atham, thanks! I saw something about carbon, suppose good for shrimp?

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Active carbon for initial startup, absorb impurity and odour. Once it get exhausted, you need to replace it, otherwise its toxic will stress the shrimp.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Since you have already set it up, give it a try then. Its not impossible.
    Cherries / sakuras / fire red are pretty hardy. Like what Atham has mentioned, let your tank cycle well before
    adding shrimps in. And acclimatise them to your water condition. Maintaining your water condition is the top priority.
    Can do a read up more on the forum to gather more infomation.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    @atham. so its an option, not a must? or else I will have to continue using it.

    @Jianyuan. thanks! have gather some information but not able to consolidate, as opinion are different between forumers. will continue reading, Thanks again!

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    I would suggest not to use the fan as cherry, sakura and even fire reds can survive at 28 dc. Adding fan will cause evaporation and you will need to keep topping up water and keep changing the water parameters.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by gryphon View Post
    I would suggest not to use the fan as cherry, sakura and even fire reds can survive at 28 dc. Adding fan will cause evaporation and you will need to keep topping up water and keep changing the water parameters.
    I had the same thought. been monitoring the temperature, its staying at 27dc consistently. will switch it off and see what the average reading before I make decision.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbear View Post
    I had the same thought. been monitoring the temperature, its staying at 27dc consistently. will switch it off and see what the average reading before I make decision.
    I keep shrimps in small tank and I solve the water topup using this method http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...Cost-effective

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    After 3 days of water cycling, got some reading on the water condition. could anyone help to fill up the appropriate condition for shrimps in general. really appreciate it if someone can help me with it!

    PH - 6.4 ( ? ) Depend on breed?
    Ammonia - 0.25ppm ( 0 )
    Nitrite - 0.25ppm ( 0 )
    Nitrate - 80ppm ( ? )
    GH - 161.1ppm ( ? )
    KH - 179ppm ( ? )

    Temperature stable at 27dc (with fan 24/7)

    I'm using Eheim Liberty 100 HOF with the original sponge filter cartridge, is it easier to control the parameter or using the liberty activated carbon and biofilter cartridge will be better for the shrimps. I read somewhere carbon will actually killed the plant.

    What hardy shrimps able to thrive under the right parameter?

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikisol View Post
    I keep shrimps in small tank and I solve the water topup using this method http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...Cost-effective
    Thank for the lead. good if the family is on holiday.
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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Your tank has not been cycled yet. Seeing that ammonia is still present.
    When tank is cycled there should be no reading of ammonia and nitrite. This 2 readings are pretty deadly to any form of lifestocks.
    Ph 6~ will be good for the cherry you are intending to keep.
    Activated carbon have to be replaced on a basis. It's meant to used to absorb all the impurities. When it's full, the excess will be releases back into your tank water.
    Seeing that your tank is so small, like bro gryphon suggested. If you use a fan, water will be evaporated very fast. Your shrimps will be living in a roller coaster like environment. Unless you have means to maintain the parameters, if not you can probably try out a few pieces first when your done with cycling.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbear View Post
    Thank for the lead. good if the family is on holiday.
    No need on holiday, you build one and use it regularly since you are on fan and water evaporates at high rate. This is so that your tank will be less of a roller coaster situation.

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    Re: Parameter for shrimp tank?

    I put up the reading was to sort information on the most suitable environment/parameter for shrimp in general. I understand zero reading for ammonia and nitrite is definite. but not sure of NO3, GH and KH (a general guideline).
    I am seriously into invertebrates and have been going thru related thread the last 2 weeks, and been getting distorted/mixed information. So I put up this thread in the hope of getting proper guidelines which in turn will able to help other beginner like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jianyuan View Post
    Your tank has not been cycled yet. Seeing that ammonia is still present.
    When tank is cycled there should be no reading of ammonia and nitrite. This 2 readings are pretty deadly to any form of lifestocks.
    Ph 6~ will be good for the cherry you are intending to keep.
    Activated carbon have to be replaced on a basis. It's meant to used to absorb all the impurities. When it's full, the excess will be releases back into your tank water.
    Seeing that your tank is so small, like bro gryphon suggested. If you use a fan, water will be evaporated very fast. Your shrimps will be living in a roller coaster like environment. Unless you have means to maintain the parameters, if not you can probably try out a few pieces first when your done with cycling.
    I planned to cycle tank at least 3 weeks then add in some fish before putting in shrimps. So sponge filter is better and efficient? I am worried about the maintenance of filter, if clean away bio in the sponge (how to retain bio in a small HOF with one sponge cartridge only?) it will affect the parameter.
    This morning, tank temperature 26dc. I just switch off fan and will see what's the average room temperature.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikisol View Post
    No need on holiday, you build one and use it regularly since you are on fan and water evaporates at high rate. This is so that your tank will be less of a roller coaster situation.
    Yap, evaporated 1cm/day, more on hot day. I have one old small plastic tank, could modify it using the same concept and build a bracket and place it on top of shrimp tank(looks better and presentable then plastic bottle) but to air tight the top can be challenging.
    Last edited by Wildbear; 30th Aug 2013 at 11:24.
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