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    Question Internal power filter for planted tank

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    I am entirely new to planted tanks. And I am currently in the research phase and hope to start one soon. Therefore, I will like to check if internal filter is suitable. I have not come across any planted using internal filter. Is there a reason for it?
    Btw, I am contemplating using a 400l/hr internal filter for my 65l tank. That is 6 times filtration per hr, which should be sufficient?
    please advice. Thank you all in advance

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    ugly when take pictures. (for competition i heard will minus score), also alot less media space.
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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    I overheard vinz and shadow talking about filter rate yesterday, some of the western country suggested that 10times turn over I'd the right way to go for planted. even with a 6 times turnover, the rate will drop once media is added in and drop again quickly when algae.or debris settles in the filter

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    Yup,agreed the stronger the better but as long as it is not swaying the plants like a tornado
    you can always adjust the flow if it is too strong but if the flow is weak,you cant.
    you need a good water circulation in planted tank to minimize algae growth.

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    ugly when take pictures. (for competition i heard will minus score), also alot less media space.
    Hi felix, I am more concerned about less media space than minus score. I already earn enough minus scores for insisting to start up a new planted after giving up my 3ft fish keep tank
    Furthermore, I intend to keep a school of cardinal tetras so I am thinking the media space is important?

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    And if I understand all the suggestions right, it is not recommended to use internal power filter for planted. Because I have a spare new internal power filter, so I thought this can be put into use finally.

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    It depends on type of aquascape. You can use the spare internal power filter for extra water circulation and filtration. Negative for the planting space, the look or it could block the light source on top.

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    Re: Internal power filter for planted tank

    Hi guppies_79

    If you intend to start a planted tank, getting the setup right off the bat is critical. As you have mentioned, you are working with a 65 liter tank? It would be good if you actually give the tank dimension. I am assuming it is a 60x30x30 there abouts?

    If this is roughly your tank dimension, and if it were me, I would not use an internal filter for the following reasons:

    1. I would not want my hardscape to be compromised by an internal filter because I have to find a way to hide a rectangular block of plastic.

    2. The flow rate cannot be regulated (unless you have one that can) and the direction of flow cannot be changed (unless you have one that can).

    3. Servicing an internal filter can be a real pain as I have to remove and place back the whole block of plastic and at that point plants may get affected.

    4. Some form of algae will grow all over it and cleaning it is really a pain.

    It would be better to have an external canister filter because:

    1. In-between servicing will be much longer.

    2. More bio-filter media can be added.

    3. Flow rate can be regulated.

    4. Direction of flow can be adjusted.

    5. Easier to hide inlet and outlet piping.

    6. Able to use a surface skimmer.

    You mentioned you want a school of Cardinal Tetras?....based on your volume of 65 liters and taking an average size of 2cm for each Cardinal Tetra, with the guideline of 1cm to 3 liters of water, I don't think you are going to be happy with just an estimate of 10 Cardinal Tetras? Not taking into account Ottos and Yamatoes shrimps needed for a planted tank?

    I strongly suggest you get an external canister filter....take is my take.
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