Low tech(no CO2) using plastic tank

[Wildbear]

I have a spare PVC tank which I thought of setting up a low tech nano without co2. Its it possible?
Size of tank: 23x23x22cm

Using simple to manage plant like moss and nana. and some shrimps.

[iak]

It's possible.
Just make sure the tank is cycled before placing the shrimps.
You can go with algae eating shrimp as they takes care of ur plants by eating the algae.

[Wildbear]

tks iak, 2 weeks cycle enough? its a small tank.

[Berny]

It's possible.
Just make sure the tank is cycled before placing the shrimps.
You can go with algae eating shrimp as they takes care of your plants by eating the algae.

i can't say for sure 2 weeks is enough or not. It's depends on quite a few factors.
you have test kit or cycled tank media ?
Based on experience normal tetras would survive the cycle stage but you are dealing with shrimps.

What i suggest is :
you can use half of the media from your old tank. This give it a kick start.
When doing water changes the other half can be transfer to the new tank and mix with aged water / RO water. ( this would prevent the BB from getting killed)
I would then transfer live stock from old tank to new tank to let it run for a bit.
Followed by the test kit to test after 2 week if all goes well. The steps would shorten the time taken.
Once you tested the water is shrimp safe u can take out the live stock you have and replace it with shrimp.

i dont see why its not possible, but then again, the smaller the tank is, the more unstable the water parameter will go. You can give it a shot, but i would advise you to do water change every other day to prevent suddenly water fluctuation.

[Wildbear]

a very goon question, possible to do without bb? I trying to have a low maintenance tank. its a learning process for me. trial and error.

[iak]

If you are cycling without beneficial bacteria it would take a longer time.

[wongce]

I have been maintaining a small 20cm aquarium for months with moss, hardy shrimps, few endlers... No co2,low low tech...

The trick is flora and plant selection and there should be no major problems.

Cycling is recommended especially if you are keeping shrimps, shrimps are more sensitive than fish. How long it takes depend on your tank, amount of BB, aeration...etc. It defers case by case

[Wildbear]

@iak. as I'm a beginning. think I will go with bb and also I,m a very impatient follow. when to NY got all the stuff this evening. just done cleaning the plant. don't even bother to quarantine them. just wash them over chlorine a few times.

@wongce. taking my chances with the plants. just grab some hardy plants from NY. learning stage for me.

[Berny]

trust me, you will give up.and get a bigger tank when the small tank crash within 1 month. I started with no knowledge as well, learn the hard way, trial and error, changed 6 tanks within 8 months so far, most of them failed at the lack of knowledge and improper planning stage. but it's still possible as it's a steep learning curve

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[Wildbear]

trust me, you will give up.and get a bigger tank when the small tank crash within 1 month. I started with no knowledge as well, learn the hard way, trial and error, changed 6 tanks within 8 months so far, most of them failed at the lack of knowledge and improper planning stage. but it's still possible as it's a steep learning curve

Thanks for the warning! What's important is to enjoy the process and pick up knowledge along the way.

[Berny]

I admit, I did enjoy the process, but unfortunately, my wallet didn't

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[iak]

True story bro 😭


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[Wildbear]

I'm trying to buy cheap and good product, whenever possible.

its all about spending within our mean. But at this moment, I'm listening to my heart and not my brain the pass 1 month already lots of damage have been done to my wallet

[Berny]

I would suggest just get a 3 or 4ft tank to start, it's way better than upgrading halfway through the journey. initial start up is higher, but in a long run, you tend to save more than spending.

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[AQMS]

If you think that you are in this hobby for a long run then go for 3 or 4ft if the space is available and no one and home make a big fuss at it.
Just like Berny said initial start up is higher but you save more in a long run.
BTW what happen to 'FrozenDuck'????

[Wildbear]

@zerofighterx101
@Berny - Currently, my 2ft tank under treatment for white-spot, can't do much with it. Itchy hand want to set up something, so use my spare tank to pick-up something interesting to do I must admit for a beginner its very challenging. You get so much information on the website, only practises help you gain the knowledge.
Anyhow, got the tank setup last night, back pain now So let it cycle a few weeks and put in some shrimps. Then hope for the best

[AQMS]

Actually 2 feet is good start up tank. My first tank was a 2 feet. I learn a lot back then and i am still learning today.
Enjoy the journey...
FrozenDuck?

[Wildbear]

To kick start the tank, I intend to administer bb for 3days. Is there such things as bb overdose? What are the consequences?

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[iak]

I tend to follow the product instructions at first but I am impatient too, and will administer more dose in between.
My fish doesn't seem to be affected by it.
For shrimps you better check your tank reading.
It's better to play safe for shrimps as they are more sensitive. Be patient!

[Wildbear]

I tend to follow the product instructions at first but I am impatient too...

Thank! I'm reading thru the forum for some stats on shrimps...