simon.. help!!!

**kelstorm** · 14th Mar 2002, 23:59

i just started my filterless tank today.. with the fertilizer and sand.. and some plants that i presumed to be hortwarts.. hahaha.. btw, did i spell it correctly.. coz the way i spell it seems like a kinda sexually disease..

ok.. not enuff plants.. and i have 2 leopard cories swimming inside to cycle the tank...

problem now..
1.water is cloudy.. will it go away??
2.those brownish bubbles that congregate on top of the water level, how to remove them?? coz me dun have a surface skimmer..
3. do i need to include more plants now?? coz the irritating side of slightly cloudy water.. mars my views.. sigh..

**hwchoy** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:02

can go and get a bunch of cabomba to soak up any excess nutrients etc for the moment. Dont need much lights until your plants are in.

**Simon** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:06

LOL.. the cloudiness will go away.. wat brown bubbles? on the surface? jus scoop out manually and yes, add more plants (fast growers)

**binbeto** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:09

1.water is cloudy.. will it go away??

2.those brownish bubbles that congregate on top of the water level, how to remove them?? coz me dun have a surface skimmer..

3. do i need to include more plants now?? coz the irritating side of slightly cloudy water.. mars my views.. sigh..

The cloudiness will go away.

It's good to buy a surface skimmer. Or you can do it manually using a fishnet. Read that Molly will eat off these surface scum too.

The important thing to add in some "quick-growing" plants to absorb the extra nutrient in the tank. As hwchoy mentioned, cabomba is a good choice.

**kelstorm** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:09

how long more do i need to wait b4 i can add fishes?? hehehe

**DEA** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:10

brownish bubbles mean you have a serious problem
the last time i had bubbles under surface scum that colour was when the tank was seriously screwed and i lost quite a few fish
do water changes immediately
skim off the top layer, or use a skimmer
once the skimmer clears the layer, wash out your media

**Simon** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:11

jus plant oredi thinking of adding the fishes? wait for 1-2weeks then u add few and c.. dun overload the bio

**hwchoy** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:11

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brownish bubbles mean you have a serious problem
the last time i had bubbles under surface scum that colour was when the tank was seriously screwed and i lost quite a few fish
do water changes immediately
skim off the top layer, or use a skimmer
once the skimmer clears the layer, wash out your media
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eh, this tank new leh. probably just his clumsy marine hands stirring up all the fert lah

**DEA** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:18

hmm
could be could be
but got diff one
one is like powder
the one that killed off my stuff is like slime
very disgusting to the touch

**hwchoy** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:22

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very disgusting to the touch
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**kelstorm** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:30

eh, this tank new leh. probably just his clumsy marine hands stirring up all the fert lah

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what clumsy marine hands??? now trying to be aquatic green hands..
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dun laugh when i tell u this.. the reason for the cloudness is coz when i turn on the water, it shoots to the base of the fert.. and curses under my breath.. it stinks!!!!!!!

**Simon** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:33

didnt yr gf whack u up for destroy the beauty? LOL.. be patient

**kelstorm** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:38

didnt yr gf whack u up for destroy the beauty? LOL.. be patient
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which beauty?? still no beauty in the planted tank lah.. sigh..

**DEA** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:47

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dun laugh when i tell u this.. the reason for the cloudness is coz when i turn on the water, it shoots to the base of the fert.. and curses under my breath.. it stinks!!!!!!!
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now u noe
clumsy marine hands

**kelstorm** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:54

ok!!!!but can't blame me what.. marine where got fertilizer under the gravel???? never handle such pungent stuff b4.. thought that dead liverocks was worst.. can't wash off the smell .. puke....[

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**hwchoy** · 15th Mar 2002, 00:59

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what clumsy marine hands??? now trying to be aquatic green hands..
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dun laugh when i tell u this.. the reason for the cloudness is coz when i turn on the water, it shoots to the base of the fert.. and curses under my breath.. it stinks!!!!!!!
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Eh, what kind of cheapo fert you use? I used the JBL and even though it reminded me of my Marsiling days (you know how the corporal like to shout "enemy on the left" just as you're passing one of those MASSIVE piles of farm manure [

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