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    Emersed aquatic boquet?

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    Hi all,
    I had lots of fun shopping for plants* last Sunday and when I returned home with my loot, my Mrs. shot a look over and said, "raided the farm again, dear??"

    Fortunately, as I was unpacking, her curiousity got the better of her and when she asked why some of the plants looked so dry, I explained that most of them were grown emersed and that they'll bloom more readily.

    Poor me had to move over while she inspected the loot and since she's a floral arranger, her fingers got itchy too... (whew! lucky me!)

    Did a clear-glass base with gravel over aquatic soil (yes, again) and off she went... asking questions along the way while I was setting up another tank. Meanwhile, the kids were busy with Kermit...

    Here's what she ended up with, not bad for someone who doesn't know her plants!


    There's Echinodorus martii (maior), Sagittaria platyphylla, Hemianthus Callitrichoides, Myriophyllum aquaticum (Green) and something that looked like a '4-leaf clover'. I can't be 100% certain of the plants, so maybe it's better you go take a look at the bouquet album.

    *My shopping list... I think... (excluding the frogs! :wink: )
    Vallisneria americana (gigantea)
    Vallisneria americana var. biwaensis ??
    Crinum thaianum (with BIG bulb)
    Myriophyllum aquaticum (Green)... Parrot feather??
    Didiplis diandra ??
    Aponogeton madagascariensis
    a bag of Myriophyllum tuberculatum (Red), I think...
    Ludwigia inclinata var. verticillata (''Cuba'') with yellow flowers.
    Echinodorus martii (maior)
    Sagittaria platyphylla (I think)
    Bacopa caroliniana
    Ceratopteris thalictroides (water sprite)
    Hemianthus Callitrichoides (man... the leaves are tiny!!)
    4-leaf clover?? (need some help here!)

    Kermit' tank....
    Rotala macrandra
    Echinodorus parviflorus 'Tropica'
    Echinodorus 'Oriental'
    Azolla caroliniana (small floating fern)
    Japanese Rush

    My 1st Diana Walstad tank
    Cyperus helferi ??
    Ceratopteris thalictroides
    Myriophyllum aquaticum (Green) ??
    ... and some plants that those farm chaps call 'weed'...

    Yup! It's been a busy weekend alright :wink:
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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    That's a lot of plants you have there! The four leaf clover might be Marsilea sp. I am unfamiliar with this species, but possibly Marsilea hirsuta.
    -Mark Mendoza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaigar
    That's a lot of plants you have there!
    Mark, yup... which is why I refrain from such visits! Wanna move over here? :wink: hmm... which got me thinking, maybe I can start trading plants for killies

    What say you, killie-folks? A box of exotic plants for a box of killies! :wink:

    I did a quick check at Tropica and think you've gotten it right! The site describes it as an "unusual aquatic fern" but I remember the farm chaps mentioning something about the Marsilea hirsuta growing like glossos.

    Thanks for the speedy tip... I couldn't have guessed what it was.
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
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    Ron, moving to Singapore sounds very tempting when you taunt me with that bouquet of plants!

    If you plan on trading with people in the US, I am sure there will be lots of people wanting Hemianthus callitrichoides. It is quite sought after and is difficult to get since Tropica does not supply plants to the US.

    I might have to start speeding up my Killie project! Six months from now, a fellow member of this forum might be in need of some *wink* weeping moss *wink*. I only got a few species right now and they are still in the form of eggs.
    -Mark Mendoza

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    The clear glass base looks great! It is a constant reminder that "I worked in there, you know" or educationally, "Here is how it is done" or "See, no chicken poos included".

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    Re: Emersed aquatic boquet?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonWill
    • Crinum thaianum (with BIG bulb)
    Is that a D-size plant? Did you give some to Freddy who has been longing for it?
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
    hexazona · crumenatum · Galleria Botanica

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    Re: Emersed aquatic boquet?


    Choy, the Crinum thaianum, at almost 36 inches, can safely be called a D-size plant (D-cup, if it makes your day :wink: ) Does anyone know if can be grown emersed?

    For fellow aqua-gardeners, is the following plant Myriophyllum tuberculatum?

    It has fine bushy leaves that'll make great hideouts for young fry in a permanent setup especially if doesn't require good lighting.
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
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    Re: Emersed aquatic boquet?

    Ronnie,

    Most of Crinum are true aquatic plant so I think you can't.

    Compare the leave layout with Cabomba juscata/piaubyensis your should be Myriophyllum tuberculatum. It requires clear water and high light.
    I have some problem with it as the leave collect suspend particles and later algae grow on it.

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    Re: Emersed aquatic boquet?

    Quote Originally Posted by shortman
    Most of Crinum are true aquatic plant so I think you can't.
    Kho,
    From what I've read so far, it's grown like a lily, so it's submersed but according to this site, it describes that, "white flowers usually develop when grown emersed". I found a black & white pic of the flower stalk here. That's what leads me to ask if anyone has grown this emersed.

    In the worst case scenario, would be to have it potted like this 'Queen of Siam'?


    Some sites also claims that in Thailand, the bulb is used in a cream to soften the skin, so Nonn, what say you?

    Meanwhile, I planted some Myriophyllum tuberculatum into the corridor top-tank and see if poses a problem with debris. A pity if I can't use it because it looks alot better than a spawning mop! :wink:
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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    Ronnie, the D-word you have to ask FC, I don't have a fetish.

    For the water onion, it is a true aquatic like the nymphaea but grow it in 12-18 inches of water so that the flower stalk has a chance to grow out of the water.

    And if all you want is a spawning mop, why not consider Cerathophyllum (spelling?) or goldfish plant (because even goldfish doesn't eat this) which floats and have lots of bushy foliage, grows monstrously fast and does not have messy roots to deal with.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
    hexazona · crumenatum · Galleria Botanica

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