Any hobbyists from asia, need eggs :)

[kenshi64]

Hello, I'm in India, and I'd like eggs aside from nothos but those normally hatch faster than shipping to my doorstep. Kindly point me to some breeders in Asia where the shipping period isn't so long, thank you!

[Shi Xuan]

Not a lot of breeders here in Asia where you can find a wide variety of killies that you want. I only know a few;
Kenjiro Tanaka => His website http://www.ne.jp/asahi/medaka-ken/k.t/ (Japan)
rb5 => His blogspot http://rb5killifish.blogspot.sg/ (Taiwan)
Puddle seesaa (Sorry, I don't know his name) => Blogspot http://puddle.seesaa.net/archives/201008-1.html (Japan)

Most come from Japan and don't speak English but you can try your luck. If you really want to get eggs from Asia, contact Kenjiro Tanaka. His email is listed on his site.

[kenshi64]

Not a lot of breeders here in Asia where you can find a wide variety of killies that you want. I only know a few;
Kenjiro Tanaka => His website http://www.ne.jp/asahi/medaka-ken/k.t/ (Japan)
rb5 => His blogspot http://rb5killifish.blogspot.sg/ (Taiwan)
Puddle seesaa (Sorry, I don't know his name) => Blogspot http://puddle.seesaa.net/archives/201008-1.html (Japan)

Most come from Japan and don't speak English but you can try your luck. If you really want to get eggs from Asia, contact Kenjiro Tanaka. His email is listed on his site.

Hi there!

Thats some great info! Thank you! Is it likely that you have some eggs? Singapore isn't all that far compared to europe and america Luckily I have some japanese friends whom I could ask for help

EDIT: Finally found Kenjiro's price list and wow is it steep! :O Even for a once in a life time healthy exchange rate against the yen haha It's actually cheaper for me to order from europeans and americans, including shipping! Is he on this forum, any way I can contact him?

[Shi Xuan]

Hi there!

Thats some great info! Thank you! Is it likely that you have some eggs? Singapore isn't all that far compared to europe and america Luckily I have some japanese friends whom I could ask for help

EDIT: Finally found Kenjiro's price list and wow is it steep! :O Even for a once in a life time healthy exchange rate against the yen haha It's actually cheaper for me to order from europeans and americans, including shipping! Is he on this forum, any way I can contact him?

Sorry, I don't have any killifish eggs now. I would suggest that you look either into Aquabid or contact Kenjiro directly via his email.

Killifish eggs are not that expensive, as compared to getting live fishes since you're paying a lot lesser for more fishes rather than a pair or trio, which sellers usually prefer. If the price is steep, you can contact the seller off Aquabid directly to see if it is possible to get bulk discount for purchasing more than one species of eggs. Alternatively, you can look for people in your country's Aquarium society/forum or anywhere else, to see if they are interested in killifish and if so, do a mass order. This way, you can save some money on the expensive postage as well.

[stormhawk]

I can give you a tip and that is to look at Aquabid. If you're keen on non-annuals, your best bet would be Kenjiro Tanaka (as mentioned earlier by Shi Xuan) via Aquabid , his usual name there is Ton2003. For best results, opt for EMS. One other thing you need to consider is that some species may come with spelling or other factual errors in the location etc. For a long time his bitaeniatum was called multicolor, referencing an old synonym.

There was a nice killie keeper from India whose first name I recall as Rahul. He was a nice chap and met up with me one time when he was in Singapore. IIRC, there is also a killie keeper in Nepal who occasionally sells eggs on Aquabid, userid Urai. See this auction for his location:

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...ishe1380870048

Since he's right next door he might be able to help you faster.

Over the years and experience from shipping eggs in from Europe and elsewhere, we in Singapore have found that if you want good results with the best possible chance, annuals would be the best, because shipment can take awhile in some cases due to mismanagement at the postal service among other reasons. Another is the climate. If you are in a part of India that experiences insane heat, say anything above 34-35 degrees then keeping any non-annuals would be a serious no-go.

[kenshi64]

Sorry, I don't have any killifish eggs now. I would suggest that you look either into Aquabid or contact Kenjiro directly via his email.

Killifish eggs are not that expensive, as compared to getting live fishes since you're paying a lot lesser for more fishes rather than a pair or trio, which sellers usually prefer. If the price is steep, you can contact the seller off Aquabid directly to see if it is possible to get bulk discount for purchasing more than one species of eggs. Alternatively, you can look for people in your country's Aquarium society/forum or anywhere else, to see if they are interested in killifish and if so, do a mass order. This way, you can save some money on the expensive postage as well.

Actually Ton2003's price list on his website says totally otherwise, there's a measly 500 yen difference between the fish price and egg price. Also In my general experience average fish (not sought after ones like fallax) are cheaper as pairs, found gardneri at 4 pounds a pair! :O Eggs are 10 pounds! It's odd I know!

My country has an inexistant killi fanclub at the moment

[kenshi64]

I can give you a tip and that is to look at Aquabid. If you're keen on non-annuals, your best bet would be Kenjiro Tanaka (as mentioned earlier by Shi Xuan) via Aquabid , his usual name there is Ton2003. For best results, opt for EMS. One other thing you need to consider is that some species may come with spelling or other factual errors in the location etc. For a long time his bitaeniatum was called multicolor, referencing an old synonym.

There was a nice killie keeper from India whose first name I recall as Rahul. He was a nice chap and met up with me one time when he was in Singapore. IIRC, there is also a killie keeper in Nepal who occasionally sells eggs on Aquabid, userid Urai. See this auction for his location:

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...ishe1380870048

Since he's right next door he might be able to help you faster.

Over the years and experience from shipping eggs in from Europe and elsewhere, we in Singapore have found that if you want good results with the best possible chance, annuals would be the best, because shipment can take awhile in some cases due to mismanagement at the postal service among other reasons. Another is the climate. If you are in a part of India that experiences insane heat, say anything above 34-35 degrees then keeping any non-annuals would be a serious no-go.

That isn't going to pose such a problem at the moment since I'm new to fry rearing and still struggling to get it right (2 failed attempts- N.eggersi, N.Korthause) Actually my tank failed in the case of the latter, me and my friend managed to raise them past 3 weeks but enter BBA, plant life ravaged, soon fish start dropping dead. I guess I hadn't done enough water changes

Great info again! I've contacted the nepali seller as for Rahul, if you would have contact details they would be much appreciated. Do let him know about my interest in killies before I mail him if that's comfortable for him.

Yeahhh it get's pretty hot in bombay and OH the humidity, so I use PC fans to cool my tanks a nice DIY method (not my idea my any means!) Agreed about the shipping, but I really love these gorgeous creatures and the risk seems worth it, but all that said, I always take calculated risks

[Shi Xuan]

Actually Ton2003's price list on his website says totally otherwise, there's a measly 500 yen difference between the fish price and egg price. Also In my general experience average fish (not sought after ones like fallax) are cheaper as pairs, found gardneri at 4 pounds a pair! :O Eggs are 10 pounds! It's odd I know!

My country has an inexistant killi fanclub at the moment

Price itself is subjective and in accordance to the liking of the seller himself. Like you mentioned, not so sought after - with demand, comes price and it's not surprising even for niche area of aquarium keeping like killifish where the average aquarist wouldn't pay for such prices yet a killiekeeper would be willing to empty his pocket and still leave with a stupid grin on his face....

Like Stormhawk has said, if your country is hot and humid, then buying non-annuals, even with EMS, may sound suicidal. I would suggest that you try Annuals instead and besides, some of them, if not, most are just as stunning as Aphyosemion or Fundulopanchax, like the Nothobranchius rachovii, virgatus, kilomberoensis or hassoni.

PC fans, as you mentioned, are not very effective when it comes to cooling tanks. Your best bet is still a chiller unit, that is, if you manage to get the non-annual eggs safely to India first.

[stormhawk]

Thing is, for cooling tanks in environments where it is warm, a wide surface area is better. Placing the tank at a well-ventilated spot but with enough shade, the water temperature will automatically be cool. Using fans in the long term is not advisable, and if electricity supply is inconsistent like in some parts of India, using a chiller is not viable. You cool the tank but you end up warming your house.

Choosing higher temperature tolerant species like Nothos and some ex-Simpsonichthys would be the way to go. The only thing you need to do when the weather gets extremely warm, is to increase aeration. With more oxygen dissolved in the water, even during warm spells the fish will survive.

[kenshi64]

Price itself is subjective and in accordance to the liking of the seller himself. Like you mentioned, not so sought after - with demand, comes price and it's not surprising even for niche area of aquarium keeping like killifish where the average aquarist wouldn't pay for such prices yet a killiekeeper would be willing to empty his pocket and still leave with a stupid grin on his face....

Like Stormhawk has said, if your country is hot and humid, then buying non-annuals, even with EMS, may sound suicidal. I would suggest that you try Annuals instead and besides, some of them, if not, most are just as stunning as Aphyosemion or Fundulopanchax, like the Nothobranchius rachovii, virgatus, kilomberoensis or hassoni.

PC fans, as you mentioned, are not very effective when it comes to cooling tanks. Your best bet is still a chiller unit, that is, if you manage to get the non-annual eggs safely to India first.

Apologies for the late reply, college re-opened and it's been living hell for me Barely passed in Economics ..

Ahahah I totally get what you're saying about emptying my pockets xD This is the third attempt and I'm done trying, this time I'm going to succeed, got my brine shrimp and everything up and ready, in fact I'm even raising some sailfin molly fry for practice .

As for fans, I have a friend who has nigerianus and australe in New delhi, that's in north india, and he uses fans to keep them kicking. Do note that north india is very dry and hotter than bombay. Though I too can vouch for PC fans since I used them last year and had a significant drop of at leasst 2-3 degrees celsius! :O Wish me luck! I'm getting gardneri misaje gold, will try to do a photo document.

Thing is, for cooling tanks in environments where it is warm, a wide surface area is better. Placing the tank at a well-ventilated spot but with enough shade, the water temperature will automatically be cool. Using fans in the long term is not advisable, and if electricity supply is inconsistent like in some parts of India, using a chiller is not viable. You cool the tank but you end up warming your house.

Choosing higher temperature tolerant species like Nothos and some ex-Simpsonichthys would be the way to go. The only thing you need to do when the weather gets extremely warm, is to increase aeration. With more oxygen dissolved in the water, even during warm spells the fish will survive.

You really are amazing! That's definitely some great info thank you! The tanks are in my room for now, and there's two 30 gallons outside but I'm not allowed to use one so might as well not count it. Back to the point, the heat generated, I have experienced the 'house heating' you're talking about but I'll take your word for it. However the tanks are right under the fan. Regarding chillers, I'm a student there is no way I can afford one, I could buy a brand new mid range motorcycle in that much (30,000 INR!). I'll stick to fans, buy air stones and run them alongside the pump when I keep the killies.

I'll figure out a way to sort out the window problem in a definite manner. As of now the curtains are just drawn 24/7 feel like a creature of the night

But I'm upset now, since I only have two tanks and a tub- the tanks -15 gallon and 5 gallon. Can't keep more than 2 types of killies

Here's my update, I'm buying from fazulinu on ebay.co.uk, gardneri misaje gold once he provides me with a real picture of the parents, his pictures ATM seem to be google ones, can't bank on that can I. Will try my best to do a photo document when they arrive but my schedule scares me, honestly.

[RonWill]

...where the average aquarist wouldn't pay for such prices yet a killiekeeper would be willing to empty his pocket and still leave with a stupid grin on his face....

Hey!! That's not a nice thing to say about someone you know! A stupid grin can sometimes be hereditary!

Will try my best to do a photo document when they arrive but my schedule scares me, honestly.

If your schedule does not permit proper care of killifishes, why are you even getting them?

[kenshi64]

That's just how much they mean to me I guess, but now you've got me thinking ..you do have a point, yeah I think I'm abandoning the idea, its not worth the senseless butchering of fry, I'm sorry for being so selfish earlier I swear to god I love these fish, but you're right, maybe in the future then. Like all things it'll be if its meant to

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[stormhawk]

If your schedule means you're packed for school or work affairs, then killies might not be suitable. They do not do well if you neglect them for too long. I check my fish every day, at night usually, and sometimes I get little surprises.

[kenshi64]

Oh, I didn't mean that! What I was talking about was being out from 6-1 in the afternoon, sometimes till 5 pm. Meaning I can't feed them in the morning since I'll be in a crazy rush and on those late afternoon days they'll get lunch late. Maybe I should wakeup at 5.30 to feed them. Hey! Looks like I could keep them right!?

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[stormhawk]

Well if you haven't tried you wouldn't know so best of luck nonetheless. On eBay as with all things, there's a risk. There are sellers there who use pictures they found off the web. Others edit the pic of others without crediting the original photographer. My advice is to take the auctions at face value, and accept the risk like everything else you purchase online. Note, Paypal and eBay sucks at helping out buyers and sellers who get shafted by idiots. I lost nearly S$400 on a separate auction from a US seller who kept lying about the tracking number for my package of toys. So please get tracked shipping AND if the item does not arrive within 25 days after payment, file a dispute via eBay and Paypal. Otherwise you can say bye bye to your money. In my case, the seller was crafty enough to delay me until I exceeded the 30 days limit, after which I could not even file a dispute let alone get my bank to reverse the payment.

[kenshi64]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!!!! GREAT NEWS!! One of the LFSes SOMEHOW imported Gardneri and I got them a month ago! I've collected an odd 30 eggs by now, low number because they're sub-adults.But most importantly I really want to share this experience with you'll because of the valuable input you'll contributed when I was hunting for eggs, so I present you my amateur photo journal:https://www.facebook.com/pages/Seren...444600It's

It's on facebook for quick uploads via the Page Manager. But I'm attaching a picture here for the lazy :P

Do give me a like if you like my fish, I upload quite frequently

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