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    Arowana in Planted Tank

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    Vinz,

    how do you manage to keep that red tail golden arowana in planted tank? I read so much abt arowana being a GOOD JUMPER, and sensitive to water condition.

    Your baby is in such a good condition, looking at the scales from the picts u posted. Can share more on this?
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    Anyone who keeps arowana, please share too.
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    I am just "ordered" one Silver myself as my beginner arowana. Yup, know abt the growth rate and size. So would be paying my tuition fee along the way. Have cleared my 2 ft of all particles and all plants. The tank is cycling now and the fish be in this Saturday. Got 3 cables secured to the top cover...kiasi setup.

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    It's not a fragile fish. I think in many bare tanks, its just a matter of bad water conditions and stress. In a healthy planted tank, ammonia, nitrites and nitrates should never build high enough to cause that much trouble. Plants offer a more natural environment and some hiding places, so they are much calmer in general.

    I've noticed though, my arowana and a few others in planted tanks, are more sensitive to high CO2 levels. They'll be skimming the surface much sooner then the smaller fishes in the tank. 30ppm is ok.

    I've been told they don't like too much K too, but have not observed any reaction from mine when I was dosing 30ppm K per week.

    They are good jumpers, but they only jump to catch food (i.e. passing house lizards, insect) or to escape the tank (usually when the water conditions are bothering them). My tank is half covered with 2inch grid stainless steel mesh (for ventilation and cooling fans) and half with glass.

    They aren't stupid either. They will only jump if they see a hole they can fit thru. If they jump regardless of a large enough opening or in the dark (i.e. too dark to find an opening), they are trying to escape, and that means you should be checking the water conditions or tank mates (if you put large ones that might deal them some serious damage). If the fish tries to jump in the dark, turn on some lights to let them see... they are less likely to jump when they can see the covers.

    Mine sometimes gets a little rough when trying to catch it's tank mates or passing lizards/insects, so has gotten a few minor scratches from scraping against the tank braces. It's important to make sure your tank braces are well bevelled or if not, split some hoses or tubing and wrap the edges.

    From 4 to 6 inches, the asian arowana can grow to about a foot long in about 4 to 6 months. After that the growth slows somewhat but can grow another 6 inches within a year, give or take a few months. So... that 2 ft tank is not going to last long.
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    1. In your opinion, would a 2ft be lasting for at least 6 months?

    2. Heard and read these creatures are picky eaters. Comments?

    I have a plastic cover, those with holes, secured with cables (telephone cables) to the iron stand at three side. I put a lamp on top so that I can on it at night.

    Temporary I am trying the "open concept" now or as little things as possible before I engage on a planted one. But your comments are valuable to me.

    3. If the arowana can live for 16 years, how big would you anticipate for a tank? 3? 4? dun tell me 6.

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    1. Less then that, assuming the silver will grow at the same rate. A tank only twice the length of the fish is too small. Don't forget the fish not only grows longer, but will also build up some bulk.

    2. Appetite and fussiness with food varies from fish to fish. Mine will eat pellets after 1 or 2 days of starving. Sometimes, I don't even have to starve her at all. (Lucky me! )

    Michael Koh starved his 6 arowanas for 3 months and they still refused to eat pellets. They won't even eat dead frogs (he normally feeds live frogs).

    I heard of one that eats live yamatos, but ignored the feeder shrimps.

    Hobbit6003's arowana had a pair of feeder goldfish for tankmates for years, before they were removed for feeding on the plants.

    In some cases, the arowana develops a taste for a new food and will not eat what it used to eat regularly.

    I've heard RTG's are less likely to be fussy.

    3. 16 yrs? Way before then it would have reached at least 2ft in length, possibly longer. Was told RTG's are the largest of the three base variations (reds, x-back, rtg), up to 2.5 feet if I remember correctly. My personal opinion... minimum 5x2.5(w)x2(h). 6 is better.
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    I got anxious, have brought the Silver baby home liao. Abt 2/5 of the tank size.

    Yup, decided to starve it first. Put 2 silver catfish in too. hee hee. MI LFS there got this Arowana food meant for Arowana breeding. Generally its long in shape. (At least my luohan loves them), heard that this kinda of food is rich in nutrient and only cost $6. A pack equals to tabao a packet of noodles in a plastic container with cover.

    Roger, will make sure it doesn't get hook to one kind of food. The catfishs seem to be adapting very well too.

    So far 5 hrs and no problem with my baby. Thanks Vinz. Appreciate it.

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    NEWBIE

    hi. me just joined. just to ask my tank dimension is 5 ft X 1.5 ft(w) x 2 ft(h) and intended to keep my aro with my discus and altums. is the dimension alright for my aro?? currently it is only about no more than 5 inch in length. no idea wat breed is it. but is asian aro. quite small. diet at the moment is blood worm. evrytime i just trow bloodworm in he will circulate ard those altums and discus and when got chance he will grab a big bite into the chunk of blood worm. hehe just some thing to share ard

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    Re: NEWBIE

    [quote:5c1a34e1="armageddon"]hi. me just joined. just to ask my tank dimension is 5 ft X 1.5 ft(w) x 2 ft(h) and intended to keep my aro with my discus and altums. is the dimension alright for my aro?? currently it is only about no more than 5 inch in length. no idea wat breed is it. but is asian aro. quite small. diet at the moment is blood worm. evrytime i just trow bloodworm in he will circulate ard those altums and discus and when got chance he will grab a big bite into the chunk of blood worm. hehe just some thing to share ard[/quote:5c1a34e1]

    I may be new to Arowana but I can share a few pointers:

    Dun feed too much.
    Excessive feeding will causing it to grow fast, growth rate too fast will produce fins which are uneven and eventually u get a ugly pet.

    I feed with both red worms and dry food meant for Arowana production at fish farms. 1 box is only $6. Just happen that my home nearby is selling it. Usually comes in 10kg bag...well, its meant for fish farm.

    Dun be too happy with 2 ft
    By any chance, arowana usually outgrowth in less than 6 months or somewhere around there. Mentally prepare to upgrade later.

    Abt Arowana Neighbours
    - Put the neighbour before the arowana.
    - If you put Thailand Tiger, tell me which one wins, hee hee.
    - Generally size should be big.

    Cover a must
    Secure your cover. I use Plastic Partition with 3 corners secured to the fish stand and a lamp to prevent it from jumping. For a 2ft tank with half water, the Arowana can still jump out. This is the guideline u are looking at. Silver Arowana are even more skillful in jumping due to its origin and eating habits. ie. catch insects.

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    Armageddon... that tank size? Forget it. In 6 months the arowana will be around 12" long. 12 months after that, around 18". It's eventually going to get to about 24''. The biggest no-no is the width, which won't gie much space to turn. It's too big a fish to put in a tank that size, especially with large tank mates like altums and discus which also need space.

    Ammonia and nitrates is going to be a problem I think. So you'll have to do regular and probably frequent water changes.

    The arowana is an aggressive and fast eater. When it's bigger, it'll probably out-compete the discus. I'm wondering if it will freak out the discus when it figures out it's pretty much king of that aquarium.

    I'm not familiar with discus and altums, but I know one of them carries a parasite or disease that is fatal to the other.
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    yes, I agree with Vinz on the parasite statement. It is known that wild Altums (anyway, they are wild caught ) carry parasite on their bodies which is harmful to the discus.. don't know about arowana, though

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    thxs vinz but the altums and discus are living together very well. not much of a problem at the moment. when time to get plants into the comm tank to turn it into a planted, i will only select about 8 of the best discus.

    as for the width of 1.5 ft, wats the max size of an aro it can accomedate??
    cause now baby still small not a worry. but fighting over for food liao. discus and angles can't win him liao. hehe king mah cannot blame lah. but i've seen ppl keeping large aros in 1.5 width tanks and not a problem at all. correct me if i'm wrong cause me also new in both planted and aro

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    Technically,you can keep a large arowana in a 3'x1'x1', but would you do that?

    It's all quite subjective really, but I think it's kinda sad to keep a fish in a tank that is narrower then it's length (when it gets bigger). The arowana will probably reach 1.5 ft in 2 yrs time. Furthurmore you're planning to put in plants which will take up some of it's space.
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    Hi Bros,

    I would like to share my experience for Altum.

    When Altum is under stress, they will produce slime on their bodies that are harmful to other fishes. It happens to mine & it wipe out some of the tetras I have.

    It will be good to take them out from your precious Aro.

    Good Luck.
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    so far so good,
    maybe I got too worried.

    Managed to coax my silver baby to eat 4 types of food, 2 pellet type, red worm and mud skippers. Paisay, mi mud skippers are meant to be executed for the murder of all my small grass shrimps, yamatoes and other fishes including my otos. Thought I might as well make them useful.

    I got 2 silver catfish as neighbour for the silver baby. All 3 are well with each other. Currently the silver baby is only 1/3 of the tank so I dun have much worry at the moement, can't say later on.

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