Reply With QuoteThe water will flow through the chiller through an inlet and flow out from an outlet point. I doubt what you want to do is possible.
Maybe a stupid question.
Can a chiller chill a 4ft tanks and four 1x2 ft tanks in a rack stand without sharing the same water.
Like each tank will have their own filter system and the 4ft tank will have a sump tank and the small tanks will just have sponge filters in it.
Roughly how big a chiller do I need.
The water will flow through the chiller through an inlet and flow out from an outlet point. I doubt what you want to do is possible.
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the 1 feet you can run cooling using ss pipes. 4 x 1feet tanks would not be a problem.
but if you want add a 4 feet, the equation all go wrong become not feasible. end up you may need to buy over powered by ALOT filter for starter tank. The piping ? maybe nightmarish looking?
there are some other factors also, you could see how some others cool shrimp racks.
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Thank you. So 4 1 ft tank sharing a chiller is ok but not include a 4 ft tank. I try to google some shrimp rack setting, hopefully I can find similar type of setup.Originally Posted by felix_fx2
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It is possible to chill all the tank provided you use the right capacity chiller. What are the equipment that you are using for the 5 tank? Lighting, filter and such.
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How to do it without sharing the same water?
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As mentioned by the others, you can use a stainless steel pipe.
Say you have 4 tanks, Tank A, B, C, D.
Tank A - pump - chiller - SS pipes in Tank B - SS pipes in Tank C - SS pipes in Tank D - Tank A.
Water from Tank A will flow through all the SS pipes and back into Tank A without water going into the other tanks, ie the SS pipes are only soaked into the other tanks to conduct heat away from the water.
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It is still in planning stage.
1) 4ft tank, will use a sump tank as a filter. (planted shrimp tank)
2) the other 4 1ft tank, will use one or two sponge as filter. (use one as QT tank, another one as age water tank, left the two as shrimp tank.)
3) As the setup is beside a tall window (no direct sunlight), I just use a normal fish tank light.
4) Hailea 300 chiller.
5) Hiblow 20 to pump air to all 5 tank.
Thats really interesting. I never thought of that. How effective will this method work or is it dependable on the chiller specs?
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Might need to connect a channel among the 2 tanks / filter and chiller.
Possible but doubt effective as it might take a longer time to generate
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Alamak, you got a sump as well? I missed this part, sorry. Also you mention 4 x 1 2ft tank instead of 4 1ft tank.
I still think still workable except you need individual canister filter for each tank. All these canister filter are then placed in a tank that has water and chill this water instead of the whole volume of water. That means you would have 5 or more canister filter being soaked in a tank, not fully submerged, with the chiller cooling the water that is soaking the canister filter. Even if the canister filter is leaking, this tank will capture all the leaking water, provided it is not filled fully.
I hope you get the idea.
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I miss out the 4 1Lx2W ft tank. I get what you mean. Another option on chilling all the tanks. Thank you.
If too many canister in one tank, it mean I have to have a big sump to hold all this canisters.
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Depend on the size of the canister. Classic series has rounded body, which can be placed closer but has a larger surface that will not be block by other canister filter. A square body canister, if placed too closely, the gap between 2 canister filter might hold small amount of cold water.
To prevent mosquito breeding, use a wavemaker or pump to aggressively churn the water surface, pair with a timer, no need to keep it switch on all the time. Your disadvantage is the bigger the canister filter, the heavier it's gonna be when you want to lift it out of this tank.
I do not know how big this tank gonna be but I would consider getting the Eheim Classic as the main filter. If you would want to use a prefilter to prolong the maintenance period for the main filter, consider placing it outside the tank if space is an issue. There should be space available between the main canister filter if a rounded body canister filter is used.
Finally, please take your time in setting up this project. Do not rush, give yourself some ample time to think things through. Nothing is impossible.
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Thanks for the advise. Will think it through before going ahead with the project.
This set up will end in Tank A being significantly colder than tanks B, C and D. This is due to the limitation, "heat exchanger effectiveness" of the SS pipes in tanks B,C, and D. To reduce this temperature difference between Tank A and the rest, you need to improve the heat exchanger effectiveness by either have a longer length of SS pipes in the other 3 tanks or use pipes with fins to increase the surface area for heat exchange.
A more practical way to solve this problem is to have a separate water circuit to chill all 4 tanks. Example below.
Well insulated tank E - pump - insulated tubing - chiller - insulated tubing - SS pipes in tank A - insulated tubing - SS pipes in tank B - insulated tubing - SS pipes in tank C - insulated tubing - SS pipes in tank D - insulated tubing - SS pipes in tank A - Well insulated tank E.
Configure the chiller set temperature to be much lower than your target temperature in tanks ABCD. Exactly how low the set temperature can be "calibrated" by doing some engineering tests. Should be able to get it after a few tries. Tank E should be large enough to provide some capacitance to buffer the system so that your chiller does not kick in and out too quickly. I will suggest you put in the utmost effort into insulating tank E and the tubings in that system. The very cold system if not insulated properly can easily pick up heat from the environment and work your chiller (and your wallet to pay the bills) to death.
Thank you for the detail setup. Appreciated it. Cheers.
Yes, I am thinking of how to insulated the tank as much as possible.
On paper,it look easy but in reality it is not an easy project.
I'm camping here for updates.
No problem! You may still want to consider using stainless steel finned tubes for better heat exchanger effectiveness. Higher heat exchanger effectiveness = Higher Temperature required for your cold circuit = Less heat picked up from the environment by the cold circuit = Less work for your chiller = Less bills to pay and save mother Earth! Only draw back is that it looks pretty ugly if aesthetics is one of your priority.
Do post pictures of your setup when it's done! I'll be very interested to see it!
Agree with you.
Have to really balance out the flow and temperature adjustment of each tank. By the way, I was told it might not be a good idea to have SS in the shrimp tank as the temperature shock to the shirmp might kill it when the shrimp touch the SS.
I have to evaluate all the different type of setup of their pro and con. For a planted shrimp tank, it might not look good which I agree with you on the aesthetic part. Thank you for all the advise.
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