LushGro

[kelvinlee]

Hi I have been running my 4 ft tank with 3 packet of JBL fertilizer since Feb 04. However the plants growth are slow and some even had leaves dropping off. Is it because the nutrient has been used up.

I have one bottle of LushGro-Aqua and one bottle of LushGro-Micros. Do I dose using both Aqua and Micros. Or only one at a time. What is the interval between dose like ???

Would be glad for any help.

[juggler]

Actually you should have started liquid dosing since the first few days you started your tank. Both Lushgro fertilisers can be used together.
Perhaps give us more information by cut-and-paste the info sheet at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/phpbb...pic.php?t=7182 and we work out something from there.

[kelvinlee]

Hi Juggler,

Would be glad if you could ID the plants too.
Using both Aqua and Micros, how about the Macros ?

Beginners Info Sheet
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Tank Dimensions (LxWxH): 120cmx45cmx46cm
Lighting Intensity(No of Watts) : 55Wx4
Type of Lighting (FL/PL/MH) : PL
No. of Hours your light is on: 110w at 9.30am-4.30pm, 110w at 11am-1pm
CO2 Injection Rate (bps) : 5 bps
Type of CO2 (DIY/Liquid/Tank) : Tank
Method of Injection (e.g. Diffusor/Reactor): CO2 reactor
Substrate Used : JBL
How Thick is your base fert : 2-3 cm in the middle
How thick is your gravel : 4cm,8cm,10cm (terracing)
Liquid Fertilizers Used : Nil
Frequency of fertilization : Nil
Tank Temperature : 27-28 (using DIY PC fans)
Type of Filter (overhead/internal/canister) : 2ftx1ftx1ft sump + Eheim 2026
Filter media used : Biohome, ceramic ring, rough mesh, fine mesh, wool, ehiem
How long has your tank been set up : Feb04


Chemical Properties (Fill what you can)
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Carbonate Hardness (kh): 3-4
Total Hardness (gH): Nil
PH : 7.4
NH4 (ppm): Nil
NO2 (ppm): Nil
NO3 (ppm): Nil
PO4 (ppm): Nil
Fe (ppm): Nil

Bioload (Your Fish and Plants)
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1x Guppy, 2x Cherry Barb, 4x Checkered Barb,
6x Harlequin Rasbora, 7x White Clouds
2x Zebra Snail, 4x SAE, 4x Otocinclus, 17x Yamato Shrimps

Tetras
1x Black Neon, 1x Lampeye, 2x Lemon, 2x Silver-tipped,
3x Long-fin, 3x Head-Tail, 3x Golden Neon, 3x Cardinal, 3x Neon,
4x Black Phantom, 4x Xray, 4x Breeding Heart, 5x Glowlight

Aponogeton Ulvaceus
Bacopa Monniera
Cabomba Piauhyensis
Ceratophyllum Demersum (HornWorts)
Crytocoryne Affinis
Echinodorus Bleheri or Echinodorus parviflorus
Glossostigma
Hygrophila Corybosa
Lobelia Cardinalis
Mayca Fluviatilis
Nymphaea Lotus ??
Samolus Parviflorus
Vallisneria spiralis var. contortionist

Describe your problem :

Some plants not growing well.
Aponogeton Ulvaceus - Small
Cabomba Piauhyensis - Left the stem, at the start still see some new leaves coming of the stem.
Ceratophyllum Demersum (HornWorts) - Sometime the lower porion look shrink.
Crytocoryne Affinis - Good, new stem popping out of the gravel from the runner.
Echinodorus Bleheri or Echinodorus parviflorus - The tip will start decaying, new leaves coming out but th
Glossostigma - starting grow well, spread well, but now leave very small.
Lobelia Cardinalis - small leave not like picture in the books.
Mayca Fluviatilis - leave shrinking
Nymphaea Lotus ?? - small leaves
Samolus Parviflorus - Grows well
Vallisneria spiralis var. contortionist - not growing after I replanted.

Please refer to my album
http://photos.yahoo.com/kelvin_lee_bl

[juggler]

You lights and bioload are OK.

For plants: when leaves are small, I suspect lack of macro-nutrients like N,P,K.

Have you already been using the Lushgro-Aqua already? If not, you can try something like 25ml of Lushgro-Aqua weekly after water change. Or split the dosing into twice weekly. On the bottle, Dr Mallick recommends 10ml of Lushgro-Aqua per 100L of water. I worked this out on my Dosing Excel Sheet and it looks like a good start before you start dosing more. Observe to see if any improvements.

You should read more about dosing from the FAQ at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/phpbb...ic.php?t=12122
From there probably you will like to venture on and dose other stuff like KNO3, K2SO4, KH2PO4.

[gchoo]

Kelvin,

noticed that you had the crypt affinis. Wondering if you could share with me where you got that from?

[kelvinlee]

Juggler, Thanks for the info.

Can you help to Id the plant behind the Bacopa at pic DSC02570.
and ID for plant at DSC2984

So you mean I split the weekly dosage to twice a week for both Aqua and Micros based on your worksheet. I am holding to get hold of the LushGro-Macros.

Also, from your website you have dosage daily is that what I can do too ?



gchoo,
if you want I can pass some new shoot to you. I am staying in Pasir Ris St 52.

[juggler]

Kelvin, I can't see any plant photos from the link http://photos.yahoo.com/kelvin_lee_bl you posted. Though there seem to be a picture of youself smiling.

BTW - just try the Lushgro-Aqua first. Not the Lushgro-Micros. See how it goes.

[PeterGwee]

CO2, CO2 and more CO2. You do not have enough of that. Adding fertilizers would not do much if you do not have enough carbon which is 40% of a plant's dry weight. Work on the reactor...add more flow to it and think of ways to mix the CO2 better. Get good circulation to that big tank of yours. (Work on preventing CO2 loss in the overflow section and sump section would save you the CO2 you have been wasting.)

Regards
Peter Gwee

[kelvinlee]

Hi Juggler,

Sorry forget to enable the sharing to public cos long time never used liao.

Peter,

Thanks for your advice. I have a Up-brand CO2 reactor at the output in the sump tank to the main tank

[barmby]

Watch out for LushGRO Aqua. It contains N03 and lack of PO4.

[gchoo]

Kelvin,

Does your photo DSC02990 show crypt affinis or some variant of crypt wendtii?

Thanks!

[juggler]

[quote:6644213b4c="kelvinlee"]Juggler, Thanks for the info.

Can you help to Id the plant behind the Bacopa at pic DSC02570.
and ID for plant at DSC2984

So you mean I split the weekly dosage to twice a week for both Aqua and Micros based on your worksheet. I am holding to get hold of the LushGro-Macros.

Also, from your website you have dosage daily is that what I can do too ?
[/quote:6644213b4c]

After I look at your tank, the plants don't look in bad condition. Not a very heavily planted tank though. Try dosing the Aqua and see if it improves. Feed your fish more as well.

Plant ID:
DSC02570 = Elodea?
DSC2984 = Lobelia cardinalis?

[crusader]

[quote:1669fce513="barmby"]Watch out for LushGRO Aqua. It contains N03 and lack of PO4.[/quote:1669fce513]
NItrate proportion have been tested and safe for fishes. Lack of PO4 is due to the fact that it exists in fish feeds, unless u have a fish-less tank