Glosso with LED lights

[gumball]

Hi guys,

I am attempting to carpet glosso and my only lighting for my 38x24x24 is the aquazonic 6watt super bright LED. Does anyone have any experience with this LED and it is sufficient for carpeting using glosso?

[Urban Aquaria]

I've used those Aquazonic LED lights before, but in a much smaller 20cm cube tank. It did manage to grow some anubia and mosses, but i haven't tested with carpet plants yet.

I guess glosso could grow under that light but the growth may be much slower due to the lower light intensity, especially in a 38cm length tank. Just have to try and see.

Just for reference and comparison, you can check out a 30cm low-tech tank by chansl which was able to grow a glosso carpet with an Up Aqua Z-Series Z-10 LED (10.7W) lightset:

http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...t-Planted-Tank

[gumball]

Wow that is some amazing carpeting. Sheesh mine is only 6 watt compared to his 10. I wonder if the light could be a problem as it's been a month but still not as carpeted as his. haha. Thanks for the link Urban Aquaria.

[Naraki]

5w Beamswork ,Gex Genoah 45cm,Gex shrimp soil. The Gex genoah is somewhat same depth as yours. So it should creep slowly.

I do have co2 and also overdosed Ferts.

[gumball]

Thats amazing naraki. Are the glossos spreading? Mine is a 40cm with ada amazonia soil. Seems to be stagnant for a month.. How long do you light them up for?

[Naraki]

Thats amazing naraki. Are the glossos spreading? Mine is a 40cm with ada amazonia soil. Seems to be stagnant for a month.. How long do you light them up for?

Yep. I only planted single stalk along the perimeter of the stones. They took off immediately. Takes around 2months to fully carpet. Light is on 11hours per day. Co2 1bps. Tank already decom

[gumball]

Wah... I see. Thanks! I only have it on 7-8 hrs a day. No co2 but I use flourish regularly. Maybe I should try increasing the time. Thanks!

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[gumball]

Oh yah, do you think the size of the soil matters? Mine is the smaller grain one.. Noticed both yours and Chansl both used the larger ones.

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[Naraki]

Wah... I see. Thanks! I only have it on 7-8 hrs a day. No co2 but I use flourish regularly. Maybe I should try increasing the time. Thanks!

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Watch out for algae if you're intending to increase number of hours. Trial and error.
You mean Excel?

Oh yah, do you think the size of the soil matters? Mine is the smaller grain one.. Noticed both yours and Chansl both used the larger ones.

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Shouldn't be any problem. Grain size ones maybe easier for planting. And make sure you don't introduce any live stocks that feeds off the bottom. Like oto or shrimps. Until the glosso have taken hold.

[gumball]

Yah it is easier for planting but maybe its having a hard time trying to push through the soil to creep. Haha! Yea I use both flourish excel (carbon thing), flourish (with all the traces), and nitrogen.

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[Naraki]

Good enough. Do take a picture and post here when the glosso have filled the tank.

[Thug]

Hi gurus, I am about to start a plant only tank. What I have with me are flourish excel, a 18' x 6.6' x 10' tank, equipped with a power filter and LED light.

My question is:

1. Is my led light sufficient to support plant growth?
Below is the spec of the LED light.
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2. I've seen some bros mentioned about light intensity. As you can see from the picture provided above, my LED light intensity is 40lm/pc, total of 8 pieces. What is the light intensity required to promote healthy plant growth in a tank?

3. If this led light is not sufficient to promote plant growth, any recommendations?

Thanks in Advance

I'm still learning.

[Urban Aquaria]

Hi gurus, I am about to start a plant only tank. What I have with me are flourish excel, a 18' x 6.6' x 10' tank, equipped with a power filter and LED light.

My question is:

1. Is my led light sufficient to support plant growth?
Below is the spec of the LED light.
image.jpg

2. I've seen some bros mentioned about light intensity. As you can see from the picture provided above, my LED light intensity is 40lm/pc, total of 8 pieces. What is the light intensity required to promote healthy plant growth in a tank?

3. If this led light is not sufficient to promote plant growth, any recommendations?

Thanks in Advance

I'm still learning.

That light is probably okay to sustain low-demand plants like mosses and anubias, but the intensity is quite low though... just a comparison, the equivalent length Up Aqua Z-Series LED Z-15 lightset (also 45cm) uses 24 x 0.5W LED, it is commonly used for low-tech planted tanks and most people already consider that "low" light, even then that has 3 x more 0.5W LEDs than the T-Series lights you have. So its a point of reference to consider.

I wouldn't say the T-Series lights are not enough to grow plants though (i've kept a tank with anubias plants under just ambient office ceiling lights, the whole tank perpetually looked dim yet the anubias still survive). Its just that with lower intensity lights, plants will generally grow much slower. The side benefit is algae also grow slower too.

Maybe you can just try it out and see which plants can fare well with that light. If the light isn't sufficient, the plants will display weak stems/leaves and slow growth, then you can consider upgrading your lights accordingly.

[Thug]

That light is probably okay to sustain low-demand plants like mosses and anubias, but the intensity is quite low though... just a comparison, the equivalent length Up Aqua Z-Series LED Z-15 lightset (also 45cm) uses 24 x 0.5W LED, it is commonly used for low-tech planted tanks and most people already consider that "low" light, even then that has 3 x more 0.5W LEDs than the T-Series lights you have. So its a point of reference to consider.

I wouldn't say the T-Series lights are not enough to grow plants though (i've kept a tank with anubias plants under just ambient office ceiling lights, the whole tank perpetually looked dim yet the anubias still survive). Its just that with lower intensity lights, plants will generally grow much slower. The side benefit is algae also grow slower too.

Maybe you can just try it out and see which plants can fare well with that light. If the light isn't sufficient, the plants will display weak stems/leaves and slow growth, then you can consider upgrading your lights accordingly.

Thanks for your elaborated explanation, UA. I have a packet of HC, a cup of riccia moss, a cup of hair grass and a cup unknown plant to me, which I will provide the pic of it below. Do you think it's sufficient for the plant mentioned?

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[Urban Aquaria]

Thanks for your elaborated explanation, UA. I have a packet of HC, a cup of riccia moss, a cup of hair grass and a cup unknown plant to me, which I will provide the pic of it below. Do you think it's sufficient for the plant mentioned?

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That plant in the photo looks like Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis (aka brazilian micro sword).

I've not tried such low light intensity to grow HC or LB before... they are usually grown with more light, but you can try and see if its possible. Hairgrass can adapt and survive under lower light intensity, but it may take quite a while before you see any growth, and even then it'll be slow. Riccia shouldn't have any issues, it can grow in various light conditions.

Overall plant growth will just be much slower under those lights, so i guess you just have to give it a try. If the plants melt before they can successfully transition and establish in the tank, then its an indication that you'll probably need more light.

[Thug]

That plant in the photo looks like Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis (aka brazilian micro sword).

I've not tried such low light intensity to grow HC or LB before... they are usually grown with more light, but you can try and see if its possible. Hairgrass can adapt and survive under lower light intensity, but it may take quite a while before you see any growth, and even then it'll be slow. Riccia shouldn't have any issues, it can grow in various light conditions.

Overall plant growth will just be much slower under those lights, so i guess you just have to give it a try. If the plants melt before they can successfully transition and establish in the tank, then its an indication that you'll probably need more light.

Thanks UA, I guess I'll just have to give it a go an see the result. I'll post the results here, be it good or bad. Thanks again!

[gumball]

Its been quite a few weeks now and still no progress with my glosso. Here are some pics. I'm using the 6.7watt aquazonic led lights. Still no creeping, replanting cut stems appears to die and wilt. Lol. Also using amazonian powder type soil.

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[Urban Aquaria]

Looks like you need more light, maybe consider increasing the light intensity with another lightset, or get a stronger lightset (make sure it comes with light spectrums specifically designed for plant growth too).

Btw, when you replant the glosso, try to ensure that each plantlet still has abit of the runners and roots attached to it (not just replant the leaves), that will help improve its chances of establishing properly.

[gumball]

Oh man. I always read people replanting the cut parts. So I thought I can replant the trimmings.

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[gumball]

okay maybe I might want to get the 36cm UP-Aqua Pro Z Series LED to fit my 40cm tank, however I noticed the plug shown in the picture doesnt seem to fit into our current plugs. Also, will 10.7watt be too bright for my fishes? I saw Naraki's beamswork also appears to be more powerful than my 6.7watt. My tank currently has 1xbetta, 9 neon tetras.

Edit: this is where i'm seeing the pictures, http://www.eastoceansg.com/up-aqua-p...ant-p-985.html
also are the legs extendable? I see that the length is 36cm, however my tank is 40cm :O