New to Endlers

[Xanavi]

Got interested in them about a month ago and started collecting them from LFS. (mostly from c328 )

Currently have 2ft tank housing the males:



And a 'factory' housing the females and a lone (lucky) male.



Have 'harvested' a few babies so far.



Hope to be able to acquire some higher quality endlers in time to come

[Guppendler]

Nice, you have 2 endler strains there in your 2ft tank - saddleback and japan blau. Your factory tank is for production of the japan blau I can't help but notice you have a small puffer in your factory tank, have to keep an eye on the puffer as it is known to be a fin and tail nipper. If the male lone endler starts to have ragged fin/tail, you would know who is the culprit.

[Xanavi]

The puffer was in the tank to eliminate the snails, i will probably shift it to another tank soon. So far, i observed that the cories are the victims, the endlers are too zippy to get nipped.

[Kohei]

You bought them in a big pack of 12- 14?

[AQMS]

Nice, you have 2 endler strains there in your 2ft tank - saddleback and japan blau.

Which is the saddleback and the japan blau?
I have the same orange,blue ones in my tank same as TS.

[Guppendler]

The yellow ones with the black saddle patch from their upper back is the Saddleback (no surprise). Blau is blue in German, so the blue endler is Japan Blau.

[Urban Aquaria]

Just curious, are the saddleback and japan blau variations created though hybridization with guppies? Or are they specially line bred strains from the original wild type endlers?

[AQMS]

The yellow ones with the black saddle patch from their upper back is the Saddleback (no surprise). Blau is blue in German, so the blue endler is Japan Blau.

Ok thanks,i thought so mine are the saddleback,just need to make sure from someone who know their guppies and endlers (guppendler)

[Guppendler]

Saddleback is crossed with guppy but japan blau is wild japan guppy that looks like endler

[Xanavi]

Hi Guppendler

How soon can we start sexing the young?
At the moment, all the babies have this fan tailed anal fin which is the characterisitic for female livebearers.

[Xanavi]

You bought them in a big pack of 12- 14?

Yup, bag of 5-6 pairs from 328. Those are the ones that comes with females. But I am not sure if they are true female endlers as they look similar to female guppies.

[Guppendler]

The fry are not possible to sex at the moment, have to wait at least 4-6 weeks or so. Females will have the gravid spot and remain very much colorless. Males will start to develop gonopodium and color up at about same time.

From your pic, the females are not guppy females. They are the japan blau females, totally colorless. Japan blau is Y-link, only the males can pass down the genes to their sons.

I have the true saddleback females as the traits are both X and Y linked, in other word, the trait is dominant. Either one parent need to have the genes to pass on to their next generation.

[Xanavi]

I suppose it is safe to keep them together until we are able to differentiate them?

[hmlc74]

nice planted , is it a 3 by 1 ft tank

[Guppendler]

Yes, absolutely safe to keep them together even after they are old enough to be sexed. If you want to keep the line pure, be careful not to mix the line with other strains.

[Xanavi]

nice planted , is it a 3 by 1 ft tank

This is a narrow 2ft tank

[Xanavi]

Just got this few pcs of nice and striking reds

[AQMS]

Look like from c328,right?

[Xanavi]

That's right. Now I have a nice contrast of blues and reds. Just wondering if they come in other full colors as well..?

[Guppendler]

The reds are called Chili Red, nice healthy looking fish.