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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

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    Get a surface skimmer as mentioned by jiayuen900 or you can simply add a air pump with airstone to have some water movement.

    I normally use the second option as pumping more air is better for fauna. Well, as long you are maintaining low tech setup without co2 should be ok...


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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    I'm aiming for low tech but adding air pump seems redundant here as i have a overhead filter. Correct?

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by genki89 View Post
    I'm aiming for low tech but adding air pump seems redundant here as i have a overhead filter. Correct?
    Does the outlet from the overhead filter create a lot of surface agitation?
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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Im using the small outlet to let the plant and soil to settle down. Once the base has firm up, i can switch to bigger output, which will create some kind agitation.

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by genki89 View Post
    Im using the small outlet to let the plant and soil to settle down. Once the base has firm up, i can switch to bigger output, which will create some kind agitation.
    I see. The surface agitation will help with the surface film. You could consider redirecting the output instead to minimize agitation
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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Ok thanks man.

    Btw, can i put it that it doesn't really matter if the bubbles is not all over the place (maybe afew staying at the corner of the tank). But the tank is still good and healthy to keep the shrimp?

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    In my opinion, best to restart the cycling process...
    There could be other unknown reasons why your shrimps are dying... It is better to check the soil, ph, temp and read up more information on shrimp rearing.
    Cycle with old tank water like I do to speed up the process (partial exchange water with mature tank also helps). You can also add ceramic bricks to your filter to increase bacteria growth rate or add some bacteria growth solutions to boost the water stability.

    I'm also a low tech newbie in the learning process.
    Start off with some hardy shrimps like Cherries, Yellows, Sunkists/Orange, Snow Balls, Rilis, Fire Red etc as your experimental fauna.
    Get some marimo ball, java moss (attached to larva rocks or driftwoods etc to save your trouble), ferns and nanas as your plants.

    Good luck with the next setup.

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Hi everybody, managed to clear the oil film with the max output of water filtration with overhead.

    Next, i actually saw afew water test kit ranging from 15.90 to 30+.

    Which is the ideal test kit, good and still within that price range? And do the test kit have expiry date? And to be cost efficient, in the long run, which will save more, digital or manual test kit (how many run can this kit do)?

    Thanks again 😅

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Any of the name brand test kits which use chemical reagent tests should work well... popular ones are like the API Freshwater Master Test Kit which test for Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate (the 3 main test components in a tank cycle) as well as high and low range PH. This test kit usually costs around $50+ (depending on where you buy it). It can do a few hundred tests, so more than enough for most aquarists.

    Those cheaper test kits you saw in the $15-$30 range are usually using paper test strip methods (which are much less accurate) or only measuring just one parameter, so you'll need to buy a few different ones to test all the necessary parameters, therefore the costs will add up. Hence its usually cheaper to buy a complete set with all the tests included in one package.

    Yes, chemical reagent tests have an expiry date so do check it before buying.

    For digital testing, so far i've only seen the cost effective ones for pH testing, which is usually around $50-$70 (can be cheaper if ordered from online sources), you'll also need to get the pH calibration solutions too. Though pH isn't as important a parameter for testing if a tank is cycled or not, its utilized more if you are keeping fishes or shrimps with specific pH requirements.
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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    API Freshwater Master Test Kit should be good

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    I could not find the test kit with all in 1 except the paper test kit... i gave up looking for it and i bought sakura shrimp and top up my white head bee once again.

    Btw, is there any shop that will charge me a minor fee to do water testing?

    So far, this is the 1st time no casualties after 3days. What i do notice is, occasionally there will be big bubbles coming out from the soil with no smell. Read online is due to my nitrate is eating up the bacteria or smth which is a good sign. Correct?

    All and all, the water still needs to be tested... 😧

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    I was at Sea view today. They have stock for the all in one test kit.
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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Do note that even if you use test kits, when trying to monitor a small tank (ie. 10 liters or less), the results can change in just the course of a day as there is very little water volume to buffer parameter fluctuations, hence everything spikes up and down much faster. So its possible you may test the parameters are okay in the evening, but the next morning somehow excess ammonia build up and some weaker shrimps my be affected.

    If your shrimps are appearing to be okay at the moment, it could be an indication that the tank system is stabilizing as time goes by. Just have to be careful not to change the tank conditions too drastically when adding or removing things.

    The bubbles coming out of the soil are usually gases (ie. hydrogen sulfide) created by anaerobic bacteria colonies in the soil that are processing the organic waste... quite often if you smell a stinky rotten odor from the tank, its most likely due to the release of those gases. Its a good thing that the gases are being released on their own, as it can become toxic if they accumulate in the soil and build up to large quantities and then released all at once.
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    Thanks. I will carry on and monitor closely.

    I read online and notice that sakura is actually cherry, but they are more brilliant in colour. Is that statement true? And also, care for sakura is the same as cherry?

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by genki89 View Post
    I read online and notice that sakura is actually cherry, but they are more brilliant in colour. Is that statement true? And also, care for sakura is the same as cherry?
    Yeah, sakura shrimps are basically a grade of cherry shrimps, same as for fire reds and painted fire reds.. along with all the yellow, black, blue, chocolate, orange, rili etc variants. They are all from the same species Neocaridina Davidi (formally known as Neocaridina Heteropoda)... just specifically line bred to focus and improve on their respective grades and colors.

    Do note that if you mix the different grades and colors together, they will usually end up producing random offspring and over generations eventually revert back to their original wild form and coloration (which are the clear colored versions).
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    Hello all, its been 2 week (i guess), since i gotten the new shrimps.

    Update on the weird syndrome i noticed today (3rd week i suppose).

    My current stocks, 3 sakura and 7 bee. 1st time i saw my bee mating, and i have never seen my sakura mated or berried, but yes, i saw 2 mini sakura shrimplets. At 1st i notice only 1 colourless shrimplet, but after the 3rd week, i saw 2 reddish headed shrimplets with colourless body.

    Can anybody explain how this 2 shrimplets happen? And also, i noticed 1 female bee on the 2nd day died after "mating" what happen? Thanks all the expert here in advance

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by genki89 View Post
    Hello all, its been 2 week (i guess), since i gotten the new shrimps.

    Update on the weird syndrome i noticed today (3rd week i suppose).

    My current stocks, 3 sakura and 7 bee. 1st time i saw my bee mating, and i have never seen my sakura mated or berried, but yes, i saw 2 mini sakura shrimplets. At 1st i notice only 1 colourless shrimplet, but after the 3rd week, i saw 2 reddish headed shrimplets with colourless body.

    Can anybody explain how this 2 shrimplets happen? And also, i noticed 1 female bee on the 2nd day died after "mating" what happen? Thanks all the expert here in advance
    It could be possible those shrimplets managed to hop in with the other shrimps... newborn shrimplets are really tiny and quite often people don't notice them in the bags, and they easily get transferred around with the nets. Shimplets usually only get noticed after a few weeks after they grow larger and more visible.

    The one female bee shrimp dying could just be a coincidence, when individual shrimps die it might be due to many reasons (ie. weak, ill, old etc)... if only one shrimp die then its not really a big issue as you can't really pinpoint the exact reasons anyways, but if alot of them die at once then you'll have to check what is really wrong with the tank.
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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Ok... thanks for the quick reply. I also noticed 1 of the shrimp seens to be molting, but froze and died. I understand it might be some deficiency in calcium. Any natural vegetable which i can use as a supplement? Best is it can bought easily from super market.

    Thanks bro

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    Re: need help with shrimps (new member and newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by genki89 View Post
    Ok... thanks for the quick reply. I also noticed 1 of the shrimp seens to be molting, but froze and died. I understand it might be some deficiency in calcium. Any natural vegetable which i can use as a supplement? Best is it can bought easily from super market.

    Thanks bro
    I guess you can try feeding them a small slice of cucumber or zuchinni every few days (make sure you rinse the slices thoroughly and boil for a few minutes before usage, fresh slices can stay in the tank for up to 36-48 hours, just remove when it starts to break apart)... not sure if that supplies them with sufficient calcium though.

    For a more direct calcium and essential minerals supply, you can just add a small piece of mineral rock (ie. BorneoWild Mine Rock) or dose liquid mineral additives designed for shrimps (ie. Mosura Mineral Plus or Azoo Mineral Plus).
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    Ah.. thanks. I will try both cucumber and the liquid minerals.

    Instead of boiling the cucumber, soaking it in boiling water serve the same purpose... correct?

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