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    Well, I don't know the answer. And I probably don't care. Maybe I do.
    question is how do u apply HP(hydrogen peroxide) onto fish tail as small as guppies..
    I know the netting method which is to scoop fish out using a net, restrain them with it and apply HP onto the scared little Sad thing.
    it might hurt them more and they absolutely hate dips/baths. Tried to jump out. And I added less than expected amount.

    So how do I actually apply meds like HP onto their tails without needing them to flop around in a net?

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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    You'll just have to do it quick and be very careful in applying the chemical, the faster its done the better.

    I've heard of people using the netting and hydrogen peroxide method to directly treat wounds or sores on large fishes like koi... but for small fishes like guppies it can be quite tricky to apply it effectively in a net and if the concentrated dosage gets into its gills (which easily happens when treating a small fish), the chemical burn would do them more harm than good.

    Instead of hydrogen peroxide, why not consider using other less caustic medications which you can dose in the tank's water column to aid in the fishes natural healing process, much easier and no need to stress them out.

    Can try Seachem StressGuard, its dosed in the water column and meant to treat wounds on fishes. I've used it to heal wounded small fishes successfully, even small guppy fry.
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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    i never know hydrogen peroxide was used on koi, maybe you mean potassium permanganate?
    i use hydrogen peroxide to neutralise potassium permanganate if it get out of hand or a quick clear solution

    i never advise you directly touch the fishes as you will unknowingly get it infected,
    i've used anaesthetics on them but various types have different reaction times

    all the above overdose will kill !

    bt

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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Aquaria View Post
    You'll just have to do it quick and be very careful in applying the chemical, the faster its done the better.

    I've heard of people using the netting and hydrogen peroxide method to directly treat wounds or sores on large fishes like koi... but for small fishes like guppies it can be quite tricky to apply it effectively in a net and if the concentrated dosage gets into its gills (which easily happens when treating a small fish), the chemical burn would do them more harm than good.

    Instead of hydrogen peroxide, why not consider using other less caustic medications which you can dose in the tank's water column to aid in the fishes natural healing process, much easier and no need to stress them out.

    Can try Seachem StressGuard, its dosed in the water column and meant to treat wounds on fishes. I've used it to heal wounded small fishes successfully, even small guppy fry.
    Sigh, I guess I shldnt have bought HP. Before I read this, I was like, yolou. And I tried it out yesterday, using a paint brush on it's tail. He was thoroughly shocked and unhappy. Today he was still gasping a bit. Do you think I got it into it's gills even tho I was quite careful? Yeah, I guess I should have gotten actual meds like Stressguard.

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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    Quote Originally Posted by bengteck View Post
    i never know hydrogen peroxide was used on koi, maybe you mean potassium permanganate?
    i use hydrogen peroxide to neutralise potassium permanganate if it get out of hand or a quick clear solution

    i never advise you directly touch the fishes as you will unknowingly get it infected,
    i've used anaesthetics on them but various types have different reaction times

    all the above overdose will kill !

    bt
    I think people have used HP on koi before, read it somewhere. I used a clean brush so it should be OK.

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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanyan XD View Post
    Sigh, I guess I shldnt have bought HP. Before I read this, I was like, yolou. And I tried it out yesterday, using a paint brush on it's tail. He was thoroughly shocked and unhappy. Today he was still gasping a bit. Do you think I got it into it's gills even tho I was quite careful? Yeah, I guess I should have gotten actual meds like Stressguard.
    Its possible abit of the chemical may have gone into the gills, or the fish might just be shocked and stressed from the process. Just ensure that its tank environment is clean and well oxygenated to help it recover.
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    Re: Does a fish know it's out of water?

    I see... Okay, Ive left the air pump in.

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