help me id this female apisto

[oqs]

bad news.. i think i have 2 male A. gibbiceps. the other 'female' has abdominal markings and a lyretail too. and a closer look at the back of his dorsal fin reveal a sharp end.

[Simon]

does yr A. gibbiceps stick with yr rotkeil?

[oqs]

nope. they mind their own business and may flare and bite each other in the mouth sometimes.

[Simon]

thats strange, I have 2 of these but tag along with my rotkeil male, everywhere he goes

[Simon]

jus some info, the A. gibbiceps and the A.uaupesi aka A. sp 'rotkeil' is collected at the same area along the rio negro river.. the A. gibbiceps can be found along the drainage of the central Rio Negro area, near the infow of the Rio Uaupes (which is the origin of the rotkeil)

many thks to Candidi for his valuable input in IDing the apisto

[candidi]

Honestly I do not find the aqualog book useful, it is all picture and no text. I would instead recommend SOUTH AMERICAN DWARF CICHLIDS by Hans J. Mayland & Dieter Bork.
About a month ago I find a small Apisto gibbiceps at C328 LFS, I think it got there by accident, got mixed up with other fishes. Anyway it is a good buy.

[benetay]

For looking at pictures the aqualog book 2 is good i've the book you mention title south america dwaft cichlids it's a black cover book with an A.cockatoo on the front cover.

It's also consider the aqualog 1st SA Dwaft book. It's content are really solid.

[Simon]

ya, the aqualog book is all pictures... but its nice to have the book by Hans J Mayland and Dieter Bork is good.. at least there is writeups on individual species

[keith]

haloz guys, any idea where i can find this book (SOUTH AMERICAN DWARF CICHLIDS by Hans J. Mayland & Dieter Bork) and how much is it? thanks

[benetay]

H20 has them it's a three digit figure.

[keith]

WOW...........[:0] any other places selling it?

[Simon]

u can try petmart... so far, only seen it at H2O

[benetay]

The only place i know and came across cos i had to go from west to east to get that book.

Taka bookstore don't have it, ordering from Amazon.com calculated price is $106.

Other LFS nv come across.

[oqs]

well.. good news and bad news here.
good news is i got the "South American Dwarf Cichlids" book from Petmart at a very good 2 digit price. Although it is not a new copy, it is still in good condition.
bad news is that's the last copy.

[keith]

how much did u pay 4 it?

[benetay]

i think it's the same book mention by another guy in another thread. It's 70+ bucks...anyway i've been a carrot head already.

[keith]

benetay, is that the same book u got? 70+? from where?

[benetay]

i didn't get it at 70+ i got it from H20 at 90+ which i had a difficult time bargaining...

I suggest you asking Petmart to bring in rather then paying 90+ for tht book.

[oqs]

yup. paid $70 for it.

[benetay]

You are lucky man oqs not like me[]