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    The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

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    Definitely inspired from my ‘river’, an old past-time awaken with a hint of alcoholic influence, my dad came up with this crazy idea to top off the whole home remodeling project. We have a space of approximately 5 metres by 3 metres wide to work with. Ceiling height will probably be slightly less than 3 metres. My dad wanted to make a new living space that will be centered around an aquarium where we can all sit down with bottles of wine in the middle and carry out our evening conversations ranging from the latest family developments to business talk to religious and political issues locally, regionally and internationally. He initially had this idea to build a rack with many fish tanks to deal with his frustration of liking every fish but they all cannot live in the same tank together. But after a few bottles of really good Bordeaux the other night, he came out with this new fantastic and crazy idea, how about just one 15-feet tank to rule them all!

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I am just starting this thread from Conceptualization stage. As of now, nothing is firm yet and I am still working through some ideas, figures and plans to see if this is even feasible with my limited resources and my family's less-limited resources. Unlike Amano-san, this is still only a hobby for me and I still have prioritize my 2 day jobs, 4 fish tanks, 2 kids, 1 wife, and no mermaid first. For all you might know, I might turn out NATO (No Action, Talk only) or this thread might turn out to be a reality at the end with miserable results or hopefully with roaring success! For those who are reading this thread backwards, from result to start, then you guys would know better than me at this point when I am writing this, how did this turn out.

    This is too exciting for me to keep it to myself when I am asking some help from you guys here and there. I just would like to share this experience with all and document it here on this wonderful forum. As always, everyone’s input is welcomed. Be it that you are just along for the ride and want to know more, learn more from this or you are as excited as me to contribute as well, I thank you all and hope that you will have as much fun as me. I do hope you have more fun being entertained by my thread.

    Warning: This thread can potentially be very wordy in the beginning and hopefully picture-intensive at the end. Pls be patient.
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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Concept
    One big tank is definitely a better idea than many small tanks. There will be less fuss and more to enjoy in my humble opinion. So on that note, I am unsubscribing from Aluminium rack thread. <devil fish> Also with such a huge tank, more doors are open for fish choices!

    Imagine.

    Photo Credits: Google Images

    Oh yes. This will be more of a fish tank than a planted tank. I will get to that point later.
    Oh no. I am not considering an Arapaima. We need to talk about legal fish here. Cites-approved.<devil fish>


    Concept: Sizing
    For a 15 feet long tank, we have to balance the depth and height of the tank first. Depth or width of the tank would definitely work out to about 3 feet so that we still have enough space for the family to gather around as the final product. 3 feet is also enough for most fishes to swim and turn around. Also another strong point, it is enough space for me to get in and work the hardscape when setting up. This is a hard lesson I learn when I did my monster 5 feet tank before. Oh. I needed to get in to work the tank due to stupid plumbing plans and a tank height of 3 feet. That was a lesson learnt.

    I was thinking of a tank height of about 5 to 6 feet but I can work the finer details out later if this thing does materialize. A good height tank would then open the doors for us to include either a bigger school of fishes or maybe a more diverse community for variety!

    The tank would be placed maybe slightly off the ground at a 2 feet height and filtration would be done via sump with an overflow box installed at the side of the tank. A mistake that I learn from the Sumida Aquarium.


    Concept: Fish or Plants?
    Conceptually, we know we want a ‘wall’ tank: something big and high to take your breath away. Based on current infrastructure and laws, I think it would not be feasible to run lights for such a high planted tank. Imagine the kind of power needed by the light to go through 5 feet of water to reach the carpeting grass. It is unfortunate that gravity is not helping in this case. Even if we found lights that powerful to go through 6 feet of water, it would be unnatural and also financially draining both short term and long term. I may be wrong here but this is just my train of thoughts for now.

    Right now, this is what I have in mind.


    Photo Courtesy of Google Images.

    I have always admired Angel Fishes and I think they look great in a school. But the tanks that I have are all not suitable and unable to bring out the beauty of them. My current 4 feet ‘River’ might be able to house them but I had a different concept for that. I wanted a lush and strong-coloured background of plants with a ‘center-piece’ fish. There will be more updates for that in that thread. Back to this ‘dream’ tank, ideally, it would be Angel Fishes as I do intend to house an algae clean-up crew in the tank still. Probably, Otos, SAEs and Malayan Shrimps, so that the focus would still be on the fishes. I can imagine that a school of arowanas would probably clean up my cleaning crew for me.

    As a background, I would like to be able to achieve similar as in the above picture. ‘Mangrove roots’ or vertical branches going through all the way to the top of the tank. I can imagine that this would be the hardest part of this project. Sourcing for such wood without the use of my passport. I would then cover the wood with moss for some greenery and for a more natural/aged look. I will cover the bottom of the tank with a light-coloured sand substrate just for the purpose of reflecting the light back up.

    I doubt a braceless tank would be possible but I am still researching.
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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    WOW.... 15ft long, 3ft wide 5-6ft height, you need scuba gear to do the maintenance

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    Really cool!! But do check the loading limits for your place....otherwise you have to give them to me if Gahmen say you overloaded the weight limit!!

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    It'll be a great project since your family is supporting that idea, its super rare to be able to have the space and "approval" to do such a large setup.

    Maybe you can check out how the tanks at River Safari are setup... many of those display ones with large fishes are also around similar size as what you are planning.

    Will be camping for updates!
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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    no more join the dark side..

    you already become the master of the darkness..

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Since you're doing such a big project, might as well make it commercial and charge entry fee for people to visit. It'll help to defray some costs too

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    15ft!!! bloody hell
    More updates please master of darkness...

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    Hope you're staying on the ground floor if not your dream will be limited to 6-7ft max

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Quote Originally Posted by sfk7 View Post
    Hope you're staying on the ground floor if not your dream will be limited to 6-7ft max
    From what i gather from the pics and info given by TS he is probably staying in a landed property.

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Oh didn't know that! Looking forward to project sumida!

    But huge tanks locally usually go the route of fibreglass with viewing panel

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Quote Originally Posted by atolylica View Post
    Since you're doing such a big project, might as well make it commercial and charge entry fee for people to visit. It'll help to defray some costs too
    I pretty much giggled. Haha! That's an idea though. Yeah the only issue I could think of for now is with the permit issues but as mentioned previously, if you're on landed property (which I assume you are), should be able to skip that.

    Setting up camp here. All the best!

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    I remember seeing a mega tank setup which really impressed me a while back, by a chap in germany... he did up a 10,000 litre aquascaped tank (apparently its even larger than amano's personal tank!).

    Check out the german media coverage on it (he shows how it was setup, the sheer amount of hardscape and equipment used, and even how he dives into it to do tank maintenance!):

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    His early post-setup video showing hundreds of otos schooling in the tank was what amazed me too, it just shows how differently these fishes behave when kept in large numbers more akin to how they would naturally be in the wild:

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Wow. A project many could only dream of. Camping here
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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Really interesting and unique to see someone making such a large setup, camping here for more updates

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    15footer will be a stunning. Do let us know when your tank arrives so that we can stock pile our supplies, just in case you wipe out all the supplies from LFS Hahaha


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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    Looking back at your proposed space for the setup, i just realized the absolute scale of it.

    If the 15m x 3m space is fully utilized, it'll be 45 sq meter... or around 484+ sq ft... thats almost half the floor area of a 4-room HDB flat!
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    Pitching a tent and watching the materialisation of the great idea!

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    Re: The 'Wall' [Warning: Wordy and Pic-intensive]

    That's about the right length of my living room less a few feets haha. Perhaps more low light ferns to make it amazon like wild scape? Definitely looking forward to your update.

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