Where to get lily pipe. Please inform.

[Filet-O-Fish]

Do a search on muar_chee's 4 feet riverscape, he similarly employs 2 canister.

Thanks for the referral. I did read his post. It was awesome.

[Filet-O-Fish]

Ok. The babies are here from UK. Can't wait to try them out.

[mercur1al]

Where did you order from bro? Why cal compared to common brands like Viv, Gush etc?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Filet-O-Fish]

Where did you order from bro? Why cal compared to common brands like Viv, Gush etc?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hi, :-)
Maybe you can read post #6 onwards on the thread to get a better idea.

Cheers.

[Bieffe]

Ok. The babies are here from UK. Can't wait to try them out.

Damage in pounds? I hope not.

[stream]

I'm curious; I know it looks nice but does the lily pipe serves a more practical function than the conventional spray bar? Just an innocent question, don't mend to offend anyone.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Bieffe]

Spray bar to me generates too much bubble and splashed and stains the glass. For planted tank we don't want induce too much agitation so our co2 is lost back to the atmosphere.
The spray bar does that that's why I stop using it when I started planting. Not to mention it look ugly. Glass lily pipe looks class. Is flow without thrust?

[Urban Aquaria]

I'm curious; I know it looks nice but does the lily pipe serves a more practical function than the conventional spray bar? Just an innocent question, don't mend to offend anyone.

Lily pipes are designed to create a wider flow pattern with a gentle surface current (slight surface agitation but not too much). The shape of the lily pipe also creates a mini vortex just below the water surface which draws in water, this also helps to clear surface oil films too (to a certain extent).

Here is an example of the mini vortex effect:



Photo from google images.

Lily pipes are also made of transparent glass, which look unobtrusive and almost invisible in a tank, especially for those with planted aquascapes and who want as little visible equipment in the tank as possible... rather than the original stock green or grey plastic pipes that just look too obvious.

[Filet-O-Fish]

Damage in pounds? I hope not.

Hi
The price is 1/2 of that of Singapore's. It was like paying for the price of one especially when there was no shipping charges involved.
Shipping : FOC (courtesy of relatives in UK)

[Filet-O-Fish]

Spray bar to me generates too much bubble and splashed and stains the glass. For planted tank we don't want induce too much agitation so our co2 is lost back to the atmosphere.
The spray bar does that that's why I stop using it when I started planting. Not to mention it look ugly. Glass lily pipe looks class. Is flow without thrust?

Word for word, I agree. Couldn't agree any more.



BTW: I wish I had know this 8 months back and I could have saved myself a lot of $$$$$ and

[Filet-O-Fish]

Lily pipes are designed to create a wider flow pattern with a gentle surface current (slight surface agitation but not too much).

Can same surface agitation provided by the pipes at daytime be enough for night time also?
I ask because I have seen a video on ADA's website where the staff raise the lily pipes to just above the water surface before closing for the day and this creates a more prominent rippling effect on the surface. This leads to better oxygenation of the water. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers.

[Filet-O-Fish]

BTW I intend to connect the lily pipes with ADA or some generic brand translucent tube to make the connection look cool. Can I use this ring to make sure the connection more secure or do I not need it at all?


Photo credit: Green Chapter.

I saw this awesome lily pipe cleaning visual instructions on Green Chapter's website.
http://www.gcshop-sg.com/store_filter_pipe_clean.php

[Bieffe]

Was told during co2 there should be no surface agitation. Then when co2 cut off we agitate surface for O2. But that means moving the outlet or you can have 2 timers one more is to control air pump. Then no need to touch lily pipe. But too troublesome for lazy me.

[mercur1al]

BTW I intend to connect the lily pipes with ADA or some generic brand translucent tube to make the connection look cool. Can I use this ring to make sure the connection more secure or do I not need it at all?


Photo credit: Green Chapter.

I saw this awesome lily pipe cleaning visual instructions on Green Chapter's website.
http://www.gcshop-sg.com/store_filter_pipe_clean.php

As long as you get the correct size piping there should be no need for hose clips. I don't use any on mine, no leakage at all (touchwood!)

What i normally do before fitting the hoses for the first time, get a cup of hot water, soak the end of the hose in it for a while to soften it. When im satisfied that the hoses are soft enough, insert them into the end of the lily pipes. Once the hoses cool down sufficiently there should be a good snug fit.

The hose clips will work as well, but imo is counterproductive to the ultra clean look with clear hoses and glass lily pipes. In addition, if you are looking for clear hoses, i got some recently from Chihiros. Fairly happy with it, good quality and price is considerably lower than ADA.

[mercur1al]

Was told during co2 there should be no surface agitation. Then when co2 cut off we agitate surface for O2. But that means moving the outlet or you can have 2 timers one more is to control air pump. Then no need to touch lily pipe. But too troublesome for lazy me.

Some of us use a surface skimmer. For planted tanks, or tanks where the bioload is high or you feed them quite a bit, you will find that an oily surface film quickly appears. Also, for tanks without covers, dirt/dust, insects and all sorts of weird stuff can form at your water surface. The surface skimmer helps to get rid of it.

For myself, i run the CO2 from 10am - 6pm, and the lights from 11am - 7pm. The surface skimmer turns on at 8pm until the next morning, and this helps to increase content of oxygen in the water.

Have tried it out, if i don't turn on the skimmer at all, the drop checker stays green throughout the night until the next morning before my co2 injection. However, if i run the surface skimmer, before the Co2 starts running the next morning, my drop checker is blue. Best of both ways in my opinion, little Co2 loss during the photoperiod, and highly oxygenated water throughout the night for my fauna and flora too.

[Filet-O-Fish]

But too troublesome for lazy me.

Count me in bro.
Also the airstones look so cheesy in a planted tank. ( for me at least).

[Filet-O-Fish]

As long as you get the correct size piping there should be no need for hose clips. I don't use any on mine, no leakage at all (touchwood!)

What i normally do before fitting the hoses for the first time, get a cup of hot water, soak the end of the hose in it for a while to soften it. When im satisfied that the hoses are soft enough, insert them into the end of the lily pipes. Once the hoses cool down sufficiently there should be a good snug fit.

The hose clips will work as well, but imo is counterproductive to the ultra clean look with clear hoses and glass lily pipes.

As this is my first attempt at lily pipes, I think I'm being kiasu.

In addition, if you are looking for clear hoses, i got some recently from Chihiros. Fairly happy with it, good quality and price is considerably lower than ADA.

Wow great tip! But I don't understand "Chihiros" is . Can you be more specific please. Thank you.

[Filet-O-Fish]

Some of us use a surface skimmer. For planted tanks, or tanks where the bioload is high or you feed them quite a bit, you will find that an oily surface film quickly appears. Also, for tanks without covers, dirt/dust, insects and all sorts of weird stuff can form at your water surface. The surface skimmer helps to get rid of it.

For myself, i run the CO2 from 10am - 6pm, and the lights from 11am - 7pm. The surface skimmer turns on at 8pm until the next morning, and this helps to increase content of oxygen in the water.

Have tried it out, if i don't turn on the skimmer at all, the drop checker stays green throughout the night until the next morning before my co2 injection. However, if i run the surface skimmer, before the Co2 starts running the next morning, my drop checker is blue. Best of both ways in my opinion, little Co2 loss during the photoperiod, and highly oxygenated water throughout the night for my fauna and flora too.

I'm surprised at the wealth of knowledge in this forum. Kudos to the founder(s) and members.

I had just fixed the Eheim skimmer about 2 hours ago on a timer. During the past few days when I was trying to get the optimum Co2, I has a few days where the fish were gasping. I did notice that whenever I switched on the skimmer, after an hour or more, the the fish would calm down and head towards the middle of the tank.

Thanks for your post. Now I know I'm heading in the right direction. :-)

[mercur1al]

As this is my first attempt at lily pipes, I think I'm being kiasu.


Wow great tip! But I don't understand "Chihiros" is . Can you be more specific please. Thank you.

Chihiros is a brand which some LFS carry right now. I believe Sunpets at Seletar Farmway and Aquatic Ave at Redhill have them currently.



Alternatively, if you don't want clear transparent hoses, ISTA has a range of hoses that are translucent grey as well. Could slightly help to delay your maintenance of the hoses, they eventually turn brown/green with mulm and algae. Here's a picture of how the ISTA hoses look like.



All images from google images.

[mercur1al]

I'm surprised at the wealth of knowledge in this forum. Kudos to the founder(s) and members.

I had just fixed the Eheim skimmer about 2 hours ago on a timer. During the past few days when I was trying to get the optimum Co2, I has a few days where the fish were gasping. I did notice that whenever I switched on the skimmer, after an hour or more, the the fish would calm down and head towards the middle of the tank.

Thanks for your post. Now I know I'm heading in the right direction. :-)

If you see your fish gasping for breath, yes chances are they lack oxygen.

How is your CO2 set up? Is it on a timer? Best to observe it for the next few days, make sure the needle valve is holding the CO2 levels steadily, and your timer is working fine. You can also get a drop checker to see how your Co2 levels are, they change colour to indicate the Co2 concentration in the water.

One added advantage is that you can shift the drop checker anywhere in your tank to see if the flow of Co2 is evenly distributed throughout lower flow portions of the tank.