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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Peh View Post
    Hi quick question, is it possible to grow monte carlo with only excel and shrimp soil? (No chiller)

    Or would it be better if I used ADA soil but still no chiller.
    Its possible... though growth may become stunted and much slower if there are nutrient deficiencies.

    Chiller is a bonus, but not as essential to healthy plant growth as light, nutrients and Co2.

    ADA Amazonia aquasoil would be ideal for supporting plant growth as it supplies lots of nutrients for the initial few weeks and months... though eventually the nutrient content will still be used up, so additional fertilizer dosing will still be required when that time comes.

    Its just a matter of either dosing more fertilizer now verses later.
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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    How long is it before the nutrients in the ADA soil usually uses up? A year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Peh View Post
    How long is it before the nutrients in the ADA soil usually uses up? A year?
    That will depend on the density and speed of the plant growth (which will determine their nutrient uptake)... faster growth speed with ample lights and Co2 supply can use up most of the nutrients within just few weeks, on the otherhand slower growth speed with lower light and less or no Co2 supply can take months to use up the nutrients.

    The volume of aquasoil used is also a factor, if more soil is used, there will naturally be more nutrient content/reserves.

    You just have to monitor the plant growth and condition to see whether the nutrients are sufficient, if deficiencies are spotted, just dose the required fertilisers accordingly.
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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    Hmm alright I'm thinking of getting a 1ft nano cube and carpet it with Monte Carlo using only seachem excel and Ada soil. No chiller no cooling fan. Would that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Peh View Post
    Hmm alright I'm thinking of getting a 1ft nano cube and carpet it with Monte Carlo using only seachem excel and Ada soil. No chiller no cooling fan. Would that work?
    That can work... monte carlo can grow quite well in low tech setups (even without excel), so it should be able to grow in your configuration.
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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    I will recommend Monte Carlo...
    I think highlight is a benefit to the plants including some liquid fertilizer...

    for the tank below, I am using borneowild shrimp soil... with 50W LED flood light..
    you can see the progress of the plants here...
    this tank does not have chiller but have CO2 injected... and I dose fertilizer irregularly ...

    I have Monte Carlo and Marselia in this tank..

    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...-Betta-Jacuzzi

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    what fertilizer to use after the soil used up its nutrients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p0ip0i View Post
    what fertilizer to use after the soil used up its nutrients?
    You can just dose more liquid fertilizers to compensate for the reduction in soil nutrients, aquarium soil with good cation exchange capacity (CEC) will absorb the nutrients and make it available to plant roots too. Most aquarium plants can also up take nutrients directly from the water column too.

    The other method is to insert root tablets or sticks into the soil near the plant roots (there are many brands which can be purchased from LFS or you can DIY your own), these type of fertilizers will slowly release nutrients to the plant roots. One benefit of root tablets/sticks is the nutrients stay in the substrate and get used by the plants, rather than in the water column where algae may have access to it too.
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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    I feel that Java moss is easy to grow. However making it carpet is very difficult! For starters, try Hairgrass aka HG. These cute looking plants grow rather slowly by based on my experiences, do not need Co2 and can survive on aquasoil alone. If you are more ambitious, try Pygmy sword chain They give a good "Grassy" effect but may need Co2. However, this plant is pretty hard to find.
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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    Just sharing my personal experience. I am a newbie and has failed in growing MC/glosso in both my 2feet tank once and 1feet tank twice.
    My main issue is, they keep floating up after flooding the tank. It seems like the roots nvr attached to my substrate properly.
    After a while, they just turn yellow and die away.

    Now, i have restarted my tank again and instead buy HC that is binded on the wire mess. though HC is more difficult to grow, at least i passed the first hurdle of them not floating up or dying even before the tank is cycled.
    Similar theory, if you can buy those wire mesh and tie your glosso or hc on the mess before u push it into your substrate, it makes your life easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w3iw3n View Post
    Just sharing my personal experience. I am a newbie and has failed in growing MC/glosso in both my 2feet tank once and 1feet tank twice.
    My main issue is, they keep floating up after flooding the tank. It seems like the roots nvr attached to my substrate properly.
    After a while, they just turn yellow and die away.

    Now, i have restarted my tank again and instead buy HC that is binded on the wire mess. though HC is more difficult to grow, at least i passed the first hurdle of them not floating up or dying even before the tank is cycled.
    Similar theory, if you can buy those wire mesh and tie your glosso or hc on the mess before u push it into your substrate, it makes your life easier.
    Most likely your MC or Glosso stems/roots have melted during transition that is why they floated. if you have issue with MC & Glosso which is much more easier to grow than HC, unless your tank condition changed, your HC will float up much faster

    I would suggest you find out what is wrong with your tank condition that stopped MC & Glosso from growing, resolve that and you will be able to grow carpet plant with confidence.

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    Restarted the whole tank with filters changed. Now I bought a whole suite of API tester to monitor every two days. Hopefully this time round it works better. On the verge of giving up liao.

    Really need a lot of patience to do planted tanks. Haha.

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    what light are you using?

    Quote Originally Posted by w3iw3n View Post
    Restarted the whole tank with filters changed. Now I bought a whole suite of API tester to monitor every two days. Hopefully this time round it works better. On the verge of giving up liao.

    Really need a lot of patience to do planted tanks. Haha.

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    Hi bro, on Chihiro 15watt (suitable for 1 feet tank).

    Just posted this morning on my painful journey. Lol.
    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...915#post842915

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    Has anyone tried those seeds for carpet? Can those plant survive for long?

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    Re: Easiest Carpet Plant?!

    I will think 15 watt is not very sufficient for the plants

    Quote Originally Posted by w3iw3n View Post
    Hi bro, on Chihiro 15watt (suitable for 1 feet tank).

    Just posted this morning on my painful journey. Lol.
    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...915#post842915

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