FAIL... Starting Again......

[technics]

I don't practice the habbit of feeding leaves to my shrimps, cant be sure where the leaves are gotten from right? The main concern to me is pesticide might be on the leaves.

The mulberry leaves was bought from a shrimper. It was dried. As I kiasu, I soak the leave in boiling water 5 minutes in an interval of 2 sessions before introduced into the tank... Mulberry leave feeding only like once 2 week and borneowild spinach every 4-5 days.

[Bern C]

One possibility is cycle problem? The additional 60 CRS cause ammonia spike? Or maybe it's that 60 shrimps problem? I used to face this problem but not as bad as yours. I just con't do the same thing weekly and not to disturb the water parameter too much. Eventually everything is fine. I didn't use BB or other chemical but a 1.5 months cycle + fast growing plants.

^_^ I just started keeping low grade CRS and Bee too. I added 2 CRS and 2 Bee commando into my cherries tank 1 month+ ago. Recent water parameter, ph6, gh 7, kh 2, room temp(highest 28°C), NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 10ppm. XD I am surprise they still doing well. @_@ My bee shrimps are like gangster, moving around and pushing the cherries in their way. Still watching the health of CRS and Bee but I doubt they will breed in this parameter.

Hope you will succeed. All the best, technics.

[ZacNg]

Don't give up, I was like that as well for my 1.5ft tank....initially keep adding shrimps till about 50 but all keep dying. I kept mine is a planted tank with ADA soil with ADA additives, koke stone, heavily planted tank with CO2 and one borneowild mineral rock inside. After awhile I was like you super down that my CRS keep dying. Then I was busy and neglected the tank for awhile but kept with the plant ferts and water change. I'm using seachem flourish and potassium. Now my CRS are doing fine even bred a few times already. You just have to let the tank settle and not disturb too much. Also check your dosing of prime. I also using prime and found out that it will increase the TDS by quite a bit even though it is the recommended amount. You might also want to check the TDS of the water which your CRS came in. If is too much difference will have to acclimatize longer. Oh and I rarely feed my CRS only when I really super free then feed. They got more than enough food in the tank for them to scavenge.

[technics]

Thank you all for the heart felt encouragements n advice..

[technics]

Hi all, just did a water parameter test on my 2feet tank. Using API Freshwater Master Test Kit (Expiry 10/2016), API KH (Expiry 08/2019), API GH (Expiry 10/2017) and PH Test Pen (Calibrated with PH7.0 solution).

PH - 6.5 (PH Pen)
PH - 6.4 (API Test Kit)
Ammonia (NH3/NH4+) - 0ppm
Nitrite (NO2-) - 0ppm
Nitrate (No3-) - 5.0ppm
GH - 4
KH - 5
TDS - 116
Temp - 24.8*C

Seeking advice if the parameter is ok or do I need to rectify anything.
Thank You all..

[technics]

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Picture of the test result..

Thank You

[Dscheng]

Water parameter looking good. Do share your full tank setup. Maybe we can advise more.

[ZIr]

Hi all, just did a water parameter test on my 2feet tank. Using API Freshwater Master Test Kit (Expiry 10/2016), API KH (Expiry 08/2019), API GH (Expiry 10/2017) and PH Test Pen (Calibrated with PH7.0 solution).

PH - 6.5 (PH Pen)
PH - 6.4 (API Test Kit)
Ammonia (NH3/NH4+) - 0ppm
Nitrite (NO2-) - 0ppm
Nitrate (No3-) - 5.0ppm
GH - 4
KH - 5
TDS - 116
Temp - 24.8*C

Seeking advice if the parameter is ok or do I need to rectify anything.
Thank You all..

I'm no shrimp expert so correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also still learning. The TDS and GH seems a bit on the low side and KH high?

[technics]

Water parameter looking good. Do share your full tank setup. Maybe we can advise more.

Ds, will post a pic of my tank in awhile...

[technics]

I'm no shrimp expert so correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also still learning. The TDS and GH seems a bit on the low side and KH high?

Hiazzzz, I'm a noobie also... That's why seeking help and advice from fellow shrimpers...

[Dscheng]

I'm no shrimp expert so correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also still learning. The TDS and GH seems a bit on the low side and KH high?

You can see my link on page 1 which mention about idea water parameter on difference shrimp. Let say he is keeping normal CRS.

Idea setup
PH: 6.2~6.6
KH: 0~2
GH: 4~6
TDS: 100~180
Temp: 21~23

By right his KH still slightly higher, but i don't see any problem on this. So far, his water parameter looking good at least to me. The issue why his shrimp keep dying, might be some other issue which is unknown.

[technics]

phpeBy2BzPM.jpg
My current 2feet sad tank. 4 small tetras (from my another very small plastic tank) added yesterday night to eat small wriggling worms, hope it will help. Do let me know if it is unsafe, will take it out..
Please feel free to comment and advice..
Thank You

[Bern C]

I'm no shrimp expert so correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also still learning. The TDS and GH seems a bit on the low side and KH high?

Actually kh and gh are not related de. But ph and kh has a relation. Like technic parameter, he will have problem to bring to bring his ph lower with kh 5. Let say more acidic solution is added, then the kh will decrease as more bicarbonate will turn into CO2 and carbonic acid. XD I just making an example, don't add acid to your tank. Correct way is to bring down kh to near 0 and add buffer like peat moss. If I am not wrong more bicarbonate will exist @ ph 6.2-8.?. ph9 and above will be carbonate. below ph6.2 will be more of carbonic acid and co2. Below ph4 will be mostly co2.

Here's a link about kh.
http://www.shrimpfever.com/2012/10/2...-hardness-101/

gh
http://www.shrimpfever.com/2012/10/2...ng-your-water/

[ZacNg]

My current 2feet sad tank. 4 small tetras (from my another very small plastic tank) added yesterday night to eat small wriggling worms, hope it will help. Do let me know if it is unsafe, will take it out..
Please feel free to comment and advice..
Thank You

Your fish might end up snacking on the shimps. If you want to keep CRS then best not to have any fish except maybe some OTOs or panda loach.

[14litre]

phpeBy2BzPM.jpg
My current 2feet sad tank. 4 small tetras (from my another very small plastic tank) added yesterday night to eat small wriggling worms, hope it will help. Do let me know if it is unsafe, will take it out..
Please feel free to comment and advice..
Thank You

Your tank seemed to have a number of items. I could not see clearly though.

What is the plastic-like thing on the left, seemed hanging or with suction.

The bubbles on the right seems a lot. Is that air pump bubbles?

Does that mean you have 2 filters, 1 eheim canister and 1 internal filter?

There's also cave/tube thingy there.

I'm saying it is the case for your tank, but introducing multiple things can cause parameter change and/or chemical discharge. Even for rocks, if not chosen correctly, it will increase certain parameters over a period of time.

From what I've seen, most people have simple setup when it comes to shrimp-only tank. If you are restarting the tank, probably you might want to consider making it simpler, just substrate and plants. Those standard equipment is still a must (eg filter) but that additional internal filter is something to reconsider.
Afterall it will also such the shrimplets in.

Yes, as Zac mentioned, the tetra will be snacking on your shrimps.

[Berny]

Your tank seemed to have a number of items. I could not see clearly though.

What is the plastic-like thing on the left, seemed hanging or with suction.

The bubbles on the right seems a lot. Is that air pump bubbles?

Does that mean you have 2 filters, 1 eheim canister and 1 internal filter?

There's also cave/tube thingy there.

I'm saying it is the case for your tank, but introducing multiple things can cause parameter change and/or chemical discharge. Even for rocks, if not chosen correctly, it will increase certain parameters over a period of time.

From what I've seen, most people have simple setup when it comes to shrimp-only tank. If you are restarting the tank, probably you might want to consider making it simpler, just substrate and plants. Those standard equipment is still a must (eg filter) but that additional internal filter is something to reconsider.
Afterall it will also such the shrimplets in.

Yes, as Zac mentioned, the tetra will be snacking on your shrimps.

on the left is a surface skimmer (ocean free brand i think) right is internal filter at the back and totto bubble stopper in the front. Tubes and caves are ceramic, dont think it affects the water.

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[Bern C]

My current 2feet sad tank. 4 small tetras (from my another very small plastic tank) added yesterday night to eat small wriggling worms, hope it will help. Do let me know if it is unsafe, will take it out..
Please feel free to comment and advice..
Thank You

Not sure about tetra, I have never keep tetra with shrimp before. XD I only know tetra are fin nippers not sure if they are shrimp nipper. But there are people keep them with shrimp in heavy planted tank.

You can try mosquito rasbora or rasbora merah. I have never see them disturb my shrimps. On 2 occasion I think I saw them ate my 1-3days old shrimplet, but I might be wrong. Recently I saw them spit out adult Moina that are slightly smaller than 1 day old shrimplet. At 1st I thought the Moina is dead but sec later it move again. XD Too big for them?

[14litre]

on the left is a surface skimmer (ocean free brand i think) right is internal filter at the back and totto bubble stopper in the front. Tubes and caves are ceramic, dont think it affects the water.

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Oops, thanks and cheers for pointing that out.

I read my post again and it's misleading.

Sorry for that and apology to TS (thread starter) as well.

Yes, the ceramic caves and tunings are aquatic items that are commonly used.
For sensitive shrimps, maybe we can consider minimising these although it is considerably safe. This is to reduce the chance of affecting the water (just on case).

Sometimes plastic suction cup will have some algae-like (slime) formed. It is harmless and yet worrying.

Hence I'm thinking a simple setup might help.

[technics]

The suction cup on the left is use to hold air tube bend into a ring to hold the frogbits. ( Idea from bro UA in one of his post). Right hand is GEx internal filter with rainbar outlet for surface movement...
The rest is like what bro Berny said.. No worries about anything, im open for advices and comments.
As for the tetras, I will fish them out when I do a water change tomorrow.. Just a 10-15% water change and monitor..
Very funny, ever since my last post. I didn't do anything at all, no shrimp death till today (crossing my fingers). Hmmmmm....

[technics]

Bottom left below the skimmer is my digital temp probe hold by a small suction cap...