Take back my words..... Just fish out 2 dead shrimps........ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzOriginally Posted by technics
Could be your tank have not stabilize. Mine took quite long before the shrimps stop dying. If I not wrong about 1-2 months. After that I hardly find any dead bodies...or maybe mine too heavily planted that I can't find any.Can PM me if you need any more help.
Hi technic, have you started using rac soil?
If you use new rac soil, you should not have so much problems.
Using aged tap water is good compared to straight from the tap but you might want to try distilled water from ntuc with all reading 0. If you continue using aged water from tap, I am afraid if you ever succeed, you might have mastered the art of controlling water parameters as I am not sure whether the water supply is consistently maintained at a set parameter. So why leave to chance when you already know distilled water is all 0.
There are liquid adds to help you increase tds, controlling it (Gh) will be your challenge. Get the tds up from a shop that uses the product they sell so that you know you got the right product, if the shop doesn't know how each product affects the gh, run away.
Getting rac soil might be your lucky break, don't mix it with BW substrate.
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You might want to consider using ugf. A shop that is not ready to tell you how to fit a ugf to a 2 ft tank, I wouldn't call it a shrimp hobbyist shop.
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Under gravel filter is good purely for shrimp setup. Not really suitable for planted tank.
Doing cleaning and maintenance can be challenging, maybe can ask more opinion from the expert in UGF.
My current tank have been running for more then 3 months.... Sobss Sobsss...Could be your tank have not stabilize. Mine took quite long before the shrimps stop dying. If I not wrong about 1-2 months. After that I hardly find any dead bodies...or maybe mine too heavily planted that I can't find any.
I'm still holding back to fully redo my tank... Mostly likely next month when I on leave... I will pop by Aquarist Chamber soon to get the RAC soil and the necessary setup stuffs.
Questions....... Just want to be super sure this time round....
1: Do I need to add the powdery type of soil as well or the normal type is good enough? (normal soil from base then topped with powder type)
2: Mosura Old Sea Mud as base?
3: Mosura BT-9 as base or sprinkle as recommended dosage when tank is filled with water??
4: Can I do like 50% aged water with Seacheam Prime and 50% distilled water as initial start, then whenever Water change only solely distilled water???
Lastly, I thank you all for your kind advices....
Will you be trying CRS again or other species?
You've got good equipments to start with especially with the Chiller which will solve the temperature.
Next thing is the water parameter.
I read a number of thread that those shrimp breeders tend to go for RO water or distilled water.
They controlled all the parameters by adding the necessary minerals.
It also depend on what is your objective.
Do you want to go into a pro breeder?
Do you want to keep it as a hobby only?
Do you have limited budget?
All these will play a part.
Keeping CRS as a hobby might be difficult if budget is a concern. It needs a Chiller and that itself will be a cost during initial setup plus ongoing electricity bill.
If budget is secondary, then probably the chance of success will be much higher if you get a RO unit.
I don't own one and I don't have a big tank. I'm sharing what I've read from other experience.
I'm sorry if I am not always giving definite answer because i am still learning and i am still trying to catch what is really the gist of shrimp keeping.
from 14L to 8L tank.
1. Up to you, I add because now I am more certain that I won't be fiddling that for at least a year or till time to change substrate. For presentation it is nicer if you get my point.
2 and 3. Substrate used is important, I have not used mosura hence I cannot advise on that product. My group of friends succeeded in using other soil with good results so I didn't want to take the chance.
4. That is wise. Yes many are doing that.
Welcome. Many smart advise given by other forumers already, I think that should seal it.
Additional pointer, ugf comes in many types as well, ur eheim can be used to route the ugf if you want to. It depends on you or the trusted advise if any from anywhere else.
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I think it also depends on the type of shrimps you wished to keep. Some shrimps are much hardier than the other. Before you decide to bring expensive shrimp into your tank, I suggest you introduced a couple of cheaper shrimp as "commando" to ensure the aquarium environment is safe for the living. If the "commando" cannot survive, the lost won't be so great, and they also send signal that you should age your tankwater a little longer before you drop another commando in. Precaution is always better than cure (sometime kits or equipment might not be as accurate as real life experience).
Disclaimer clause: I am a cheapo, not a gadget person. My personal experiences may not rightly fit the well read, high-tech seasoned aquarium guru who has all the means and resources, family support, society support, heaven and earth support. As such, take my advice at your own risk and I bore no liability or whatsoever if one of your shrimp's legs got reaped off if you followed by instruction.
Anyhow, enjoy shrimp keeping.
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Is it due to your tetra?? Is your shrimps stress when there's tetra is near them?? I think for the time being, don't add any fish into your tank.
@_@ There are too many possibility for the death. It seem like whenever you add in new live stocks, the next day some CRS will died?? Your 20 CRS doing well(ie active and happy eating) till you add in 60 more CRS?? Is it possible that your nitrifying bacteria are not well establish to handle the additional bioload? @_@ I think need to investigate and narrow down the possibility.
WOW~~ Nice UGF....
Actually TS setup is ok to me la, Some good stuff like EHIEM, haliea chiller, etc. Just be patient, maybe your water parameter still not stable yet. Let it sit in longer, patient ! Then slowly add a bit livestock, trial and error. One day, you will surely succeed. But do consider RO or distilled water. Very important is the water source !
I would suggest not redoing your tank as you will have to cycle it all over again. Higher chance your current shrimps might all die as sudden change in parameters. Try leaving it alone till you are on leave and observe if there are any more deaths. If you really want to add more shrimps I would suggest getting younger shrimps but NOT babies as younger shrimps are more adaptable to new environment. If you have never seen your shrimps molt before, try getting a mineral rock or mosura gradivas, they might help to encourage molting.
=D Thumbs up for ya guys.
has anyone tried JBL Biotopol C - Water conditioner for breeding shrimps?
Seems like a good product, its description lists that it absorbs copper and provides beneficial minerals + vitamins for shrimps. Could be a useful supplement if you suspect that there are excessive copper levels in your tap water supply.
It supposedly neutralizes chlorine compounds too, though not sure if it also deals with chloramine. I guess you can try and see if it works.
Last edited by Urban Aquaria; 20th Jun 2015 at 23:40.
I bought a product that claims it removes nitrates but after 3 weeks nitrates still the same so I am not going to try out anymore of these "miracle" stuffs until at least a few hobbyists have tested it working
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