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I don't personally use flourish, but many people do, maybe glosso in particular is non responsive to it. Hopefully someone who has used it on glosso can help
Hi all, i just bought a bottle of seachem flourish in hope of adding liquid fert to my Glosso to boost their growth.
Did i make a mistake here as flourish seems to work better for non-rooted plant and has little impact go carpet?
I don't personally use flourish, but many people do, maybe glosso in particular is non responsive to it. Hopefully someone who has used it on glosso can help
Flourish adds nutrients to your water column which gets distributed throughout your tank, even the substrate. For plants that eat at their roots, a slightly better alternative would have been the seachem flourish root tabs but I think you'll still se results dosing the liquid flourish
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Glosso may require root tabs for nutrition. But from my experience, Seachem adds liquid CO2 (Carbon) into the aquarium which kind of acts like fertilizer. However, CO2 is much better in its liquid form as it can be more easily absorbed by the plant. It depends what you are using Excel for. If it is for CO2 supplement then you might also want to dose additional supplements like Flourish Trace etc. (personally, I am a fan of aquasoil and Compressed CO2 so I have not tried this method before). However, if you are using Excel as a nutrient supplement, then dose accordingly to the instructions. However, Glosso requires more CO2 than nutrients. Therefore, place CO2 over nutrients.
Does this make sense: ~Imperfect Past equals future tense~
Just an update.
Two few days after i dose florish, almost half of my glosso turned yellow and dying.
Also long strands of bright green alage that looks like spider web is spreading throughout the dying plants and on rocks leaving green traces.
I do 8 hours of lights and co2 at 1 bubble every 3 sec (18litres tank). No live stock.
Looks like have to restart tank liao.
Damn demoralizing in planted tank. My 2feet tank kena BBA and this one kena long green strands of alage which i dont even know what it is.
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Dont be demoralise, but instead readup and ask more questions, and you got to reply too.
It would be better that you find why you failed in both tank, it could not be coincidental.
May I ask why are you dosing Flourish?
I'm not an expert on co2 but one bubble every three seconds sounds low, do you have a drop checker?
I put in flourish in hope that the plant grow fast. haha.
Got a drop checker in place...but i suspect maybe the solution is already spoilt. No matter how much co2 i put in (after half an hour), it still shows dark green.
this is a good thread with lots of information. try to read through it.
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ed-tank-corner
If your drop checker solution is the mixing type, make sure you are using 4dkh reference solution to mix with the indicator reagent (not aquarium water), otherwise the drop checker readings will be wrong.Originally Posted by w3iw3n
Another alternative is to use pre-mixed Co2 indicator solutions, those can be used directly without mixing.
Thanks for the advice. I bought the API test strips instead. Gives me more than PH.
Just restarted my one feet tank. Once stable, transfer my fishes over to the one feet and restart my two feet tank (infested w BBA currently).
Note that test strips are alot less accurate than actual test tube measurement kits... in some cases, i've experienced test strips displaying measurements way off the actual levels, so don't rely on them too much when it comes to doing actual tests, especially when testing to see if its safe to add livestock.
Just to continue update on this thread on my journey of planted tank (those that wanna see nice tank, look away now).
Subsequent to decommissioning my one feet tank of Glosso, i started again with new filters and bio-rings, this time round, MC as carpet. Didnt turn up successful again. MC starts floating up. Members from another thread told me it could be the roots are rotting off. Not sure if temperature is the root cause. I do not use those computer fans and in the day, all windows are closed since nobody is at home. I blast 15watt of LED light into the 1feet tank during the day. The Chihiro lights gets uncomfortably hot at least on the aluminum side that is facing upwards (i suppose it acts like a giant heat sink).
Told myself planted tank needs a lot of patience and thus re-mustered courage and restarted the tank again last week. But accidentally, i bought HC which i subsequently knew that its much harder to grow. Today is day 7 and as of now still doing fine. Bought various API test kits to check for various parameters as well. One last try.....
Based on the test results, Ammonia is steadily going down but Nitrite is still high. No signs of it coming down. if i am getting BB solution, is Seachem Stability good?
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And this is how it looks like at Day 7. CO2 and light 6-7hours a day; Seachem flourish once a week; no water change. just top up evaporated water.
Read different opinions of water change. Should i start changing water at least 20% once a week? or when i see nitrate spike then i change?
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Last edited by w3iw3n; 13th May 2016 at 09:08.
The light should be good enough for a 1ft tank, co2 at 1-2bps would be sufficient. I don't think heat is a serious problem, adding a fan to blow at the water surface would definitely helps.
i can pass you some submerge MC if you want it to help you kick start.
one unknown factor is your filter, it must provide good circulation to the whole tank.
I would assume your HC is in emmerse form. That would be more tricky during transition stage, but I don't see why you cannot be successful.. Good luck.
if all still fail, you need to shake UA hand to absorb some "Green Fingers" luck
Since you do not have fauna in the tank, it's safe to do larger water change or no change should be fine. For me, I don't really do water change during the start of the cycling unless I want to reduce the high amount of ammonia or nitrate, there's nothing much to worry about since it's only plants in there.
Your substrate seem big, easier for HC to float. If it's emmerse form, you can conside trimming it once you see new growth, that will encourage them to crawl instead of growing upwards too.
you need more patience about the growth. You normally won't see much growth on MC in the first week, as its need to establish root first. Then you will start seeing more leaves growing out which could happen 2nd weeks onwards. However if your MC is bought in emmerse form, the plant will transform into submerse form and old leaves will dies off and replace with new leaves, which could happen in 2nd/3rd weeks.
hopefully this help...
Hi all, got a question to ask. 2 weeks after restart of my tank, the cycling process is completed. 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites now.
Added in some livestock to test water.
However, i realize my HC and Christmas Moss is turning yellow. If you contrast it with the fern that i newly added, and see that there's a huge difference in colour. One's green the other is yellow.
Tank size is 30x18x15cm and I do co2 at 2 bubbles per sec with lights (15watt LED) turned on for 6-hours a day. Seachem flourish dosed every 5 days based on manufacturer's dosage.
Is it iron deficiency? Bought a bottle of seachem iron but havent dose yet cos i dont know how frequent to dose. The instructions only tell you how much but not how frequent.
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If nitrate test measurements read zero, then it could also most likely be due to overal nitrate deficiency too (since you already tested it), that will also show up as weak yellowing leaves in plants too.
Although Seachem Flourish has nitrogen content, its at very low concentration, so you may need to either also dose more nitrogen ferts or feed the livestock more food to generate more nitrates.
Fert dosage instructions on bottles are only a baseline recommendation, if your plants need more nutrients you have to increase dosage accordingly. The key is to monitor the plant growth and progressively increase the amount and/or frequency of dosing in stages until your plant conditions and growth improve.
Hi guys, just an update to my above tank. It has finally worked out well (at the expense of a few cherry and tetra cos i was too impatient and added in livestock too early).
Now, all flora is growing and bubbling well. The rate HC is growing is still not fast but its spreading well (i guess temperature cos be one reason since its a small tank and thus more susceptible to temperature fluctuations).
Dosing iron and flourish based on gut feel now (by looking at how fast the algae is growing).
With this small success, i will be restarting my 2ft tank shortly when i find some time to mimic "Hidden paths" created by Urban Aquaria.
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Nice tank. My MC are all yellow and dying as well. I am going to get excel as a CO2 supplement. But not sire which other fertilizer i need. What are you dosing overall?
Do you check parameters before dosing? I am resistance to do the testing as of now...
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