Fine Particles in Planted Tank

**turbo51** · 1st Jul 2016, 17:57

Hi hi,

Filter socks 1st time i heard of it. Can alighten me where do i put the sock??

Originally Posted by BFG

Since you are running a sump tank, consider using filter sock to catch your floating particles. Use those felt type micron size filter sock. Do not buy those filter socks that looks like small sized netting. Try going to marine lfs, they might have stock. You can google it , you'll need a holder for the filter sock too!

**turbo51** · 1st Jul 2016, 17:57

Hi Guys this is my humble tank.... enjoy

https://youtu.be/hT3iswb0oEU

**Johnenrui** · 1st Jul 2016, 18:15

Originally Posted by turbo51

Hi Guys this is my humble tank.... enjoy

https://youtu.be/hT3iswb0oEU

Thank you for sharing. Must have been huge! haha... do you stay in a landed?

**vinz** · 1st Jul 2016, 18:50

Originally Posted by turbo51

Hi hi,

Filter socks 1st time i heard of it. Can alighten me where do i put the sock??

It is typically placed below the drain pipe outlet. Water drops into the sock before entering the sump. But that is provided your drain pipe outlet is the standard setup where the outlet is above water. If you have the planted tank version were the pipe exits under water (like mine), then its difficult to use the sock that comes with a rigid ring. If you can find the type with drawstring then you can simply secure it over the outlet underwater.

However, the drawstring type typically are not as fine as the one with the rigid ring.

But the sock is pointless unless the particles are being drawn down the drain pipe into the sump.

If the particles do make it into the sump, then it should have been handled by the fine filter wool. Which is why I'm guessing the particles are not being sucked into the sump.

I'll try to post a photo of the sock later.

**BFG** · 1st Jul 2016, 22:50

Originally Posted by turbo51

Hi hi,

Filter socks 1st time i heard of it. Can alighten me where do i put the sock??

This item is currently in use by aquarist on the dark side of the hobby , the reef keeper ie saltwater tank.

http://www.marinedepot.com/Filter_So...FMMEFS-ct.html

The above link are just an example. For more finer particle , you need to employ sand filtration . Might be troublesome to use .

**Johnenrui** · 1st Jul 2016, 22:55

Originally Posted by vinz

It is typically placed below the drain pipe outlet. Water drops into the sock before entering the sump. But that is provided your drain pipe outlet is the standard setup where the outlet is above water. If you have the planted tank version were the pipe exits under water (like mine), then its difficult to use the sock that comes with a rigid ring. If you can find the type with drawstring then you can simply secure it over the outlet underwater.

However, the drawstring type typically are not as fine as the one with the rigid ring.

But the sock is pointless unless the particles are being drawn down the drain pipe into the sump.

If the particles do make it into the sump, then it should have been handled by the fine filter wool. Which is why I'm guessing the particles are not being sucked into the sump.

I'll try to post a photo of the sock later.

I agree bro...! I think if the particles make it into the sump it would have been caught by my wool and media already. The thing is that they are not getting in.

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**BFG** · 1st Jul 2016, 22:59

Here is a video on how to use it in a sump.

https://youtu.be/IWgUCCzwwu0

Another new equipment from Germany I think , same concept but less of a hassle .

https://youtu.be/jOb0bfkPAIk

Hope this helps !

**BFG** · 1st Jul 2016, 23:19

The wool will not capture the fine particle , there are too much gap in it . A protein skimmer will remove most of the fine particle but would not work in freshwater .

**vinz** · 1st Jul 2016, 23:31

Thanks for the video, BFG. You've given me some ideas to modify my sump to use filter socks.

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**BFG** · 1st Jul 2016, 23:47

Guys , I do not know if you know this but there is a new wavemaker in the market . It was design by Maxspect and it pushes water in a wide pattern , unlike the normal wavemaker that push water in a point form . It is called the Gyre wavemaker .

https://youtu.be/ZXMaY-S0moI

This will keep the fine particle suspended in the water column until they are removed by filtration . There are a few mode available from the Gyre . Watch the link above until the end . For large tank , you may need 2 of the large model , 1 ln each end of the tank . The distributor is De-lighting . There is however the ' 3rd party ' version from Jebao .

**vinz** · 1st Jul 2016, 23:50

BFG, do you know any shops selling 200 micron filter pad or filter sock that have draw string?

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**Johnenrui** · 1st Jul 2016, 23:52

Originally Posted by BFG

Guys , I do not know if you know this but there is a new wavemaker in the market . It was design by Maxspect and it pushes water in a wide pattern , unlike the normal wavemaker that push water in a point form . It is called the Gyre wavemaker .

https://youtu.be/ZXMaY-S0moI

This will keep the fine particle suspended in the water column until they are removed by filtration . There are a few mode available from the Gyre . Watch the link above until the end . For large tank , you may need 2 of the large model , 1 ln each end of the tank . The distributor is De-lighting . There is however the ' 3rd party ' version from Jebao .

Wow this is fresh and definitely something I don't mind considering though I suspect the price point won't be that low..!

Do you know where I can find one?

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**BFG** · 2nd Jul 2016, 05:03

Originally Posted by vinz

BFG, do you know any shops selling 200 micron filter pad or filter sock that have draw string?

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Sorry vinz , not many lfs stock these version as the ones I saw while they start employing the use of filter sock usually is sold with the filter sock holder too. Your best bet is either c328 or seaview . You might try contacting lfs like Iwarna , Aquamarin , Madpetz , Fishy business and De-Lighting.

Maybe if you lucky , you might stumble on unsold batch though .

**BFG** · 2nd Jul 2016, 05:09

Originally Posted by Johnenrui

Wow this is fresh and definitely something I don't mind considering though I suspect the price point won't be that low..!

Do you know where I can find one?

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The Maxspect comes from Razali of De-Lighting, also known here as Dr Evil . The ' 3rd party ' from Jebao should be available at most lfs. A famous lfs at tiong bahru should have the Jebao version . Forgotten that lfs name though .

**BFG** · 2nd Jul 2016, 05:21

More reading source on Jebao Crossflow pump .

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2535013

Modification for the Jebao Crossflow pump .

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2552560

The Maxspect thread .

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2418285

Take your time to digest the information . Personally , I owned the Maxspect but it haven't touch water due to my plan to change tank . Look for the unboxing video on youtube for both the Gyre and Crossflow wavemaker .

Fyi , these are created for saltwater tanks aka reef tank but I do not see any problem for freshwater usage . I would say it is also better suit for freshwater tank , be it fish tank or planted . You can mount it horizontally and even vertically at a corner to provide a circular flow.

Hope this helps !