Need help on Hair Grass

[planter]

Hi, I have been trying to grow hair grass afew times but hair grass seems to die on me. Any bro here have tips on growing hair grass?? My other plants are doing well but only my hair grass is turning brown and become lesser and lesser each day. Pls help. Thanks

[ms]

Hi,
I have lots of hair glass in my tank, and they are growing very well. I have base fertilizer and also dose the tank with liquid fertilizer every 3-4 days.
CO2 and lights also.

They will start growing and multiplying after a few weeks. Initially, when you first plant them, nothing seems to happen.

But now, they are growing very healthy and bubbling. The only problem is algae growing at the bottom of the bunch in some areas of the tank.

MS

[michael lai]

Hi Planter,
Maybe you could elaborate alittle bit on your set up.IE, lighting, Substrate, Co2, fertiliser & water. Hairgrass is not really demanding maybe something is wrong somewhere.I had some growing even in crush coral chips as substrate.

PS: Co2 is a must for this plant.

[juggler]

Planter: How's your lighting? I find they need good amounts of it to grow well. Any pics of your tank and the hair grass?

[planter]

Planter: How's your lighting? I find they need good amounts of it to grow well. Any pics of your tank and the hair grass?

Bro, Thanks for the reply, the info of my tank is below.

Tank setup
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Age of tank : About 1 year
Dimesions of tank (LxWxH) : 4X2X2
Volume of water : Almost full

Type of Filter (overhead/internal/canister) : Ehiem 2228

Type of lighting (FL/PL/MH) : PL 4x55watt, PL 2x36watt & FL 2x30watt
Lighting Intensity :
No. of hours of lighting : 10 hours

Type of CO2 (DIY/Liquid/Tank) : Tank
CO2 injection rate (bps): 2-3 bps

Substrate used : Lapis
Thickness of base fert : 1cm
Thickness of gravel : 3-6cm (sloping effect)

Type of liquid fertilizers used : Dr mallick
Other types of fertilizer used (Root monsters/laterite etc): Root monster
Frequency of fertilization : Liquid once per week

Temperature of tank : 27-28 deg

Other equipment : 2 x fan, 1 on for 24x7 the other is on when light is on.
: External reactor


Chemical Properties
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Carbonate Hardness (KH): 3-4
Total Hardness (gH): not sure
pH : 6.6-6.8
NH4 (ppm):
NO2 (ppm):
NO3 (ppm): 10.14
PO4 (ppm): 1
Fe (ppm): 0.63



Bioload
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Flora in tank :I don't really know the names, but pic can be found in my gallery (4X2X2)

Fauna in tank : mainly Tertas



Description of problem(s):
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Hair grass not growing well, they turning brown and getting lesser and lesser.


Photographs :
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[planter]

Pic of my tank can be found here...

http://www.arofanatics.com/members/p...onplantedtank/

[michael lai]

Hi Planter,
Great tank, growth looks vibrant on the other plants. Your problem is beyond me, bro( HG ).May the force be with u

[juggler]

Planter: Nice tank! Don't look like having problems to me.
The hair grass looks neat and is covering the foreground well. Don't look like dying off. BTW - do you ever trim the hair grass?

[PeterGwee]

What exactly are you dosing the tank with? (Dr Mallick has a range of products..not sure which you are using though.) The frequency of the dosage? How much are you dosing? What kind of NO3 kit are you using? How much water change are you performing weekly?

Regards
Peter Gwee

[planter]

Planter: Nice tank! Don't look like having problems to me.
The hair grass looks neat and is covering the foreground well. Don't look like dying off. BTW - do you ever trim the hair grass?

Thanks bro, the first pic was taken about 1 month ago. The 2nd pic is taken recently where the hair grass look abit brown rather then green. And yes i used to trim them but now there are too little for me to trim.

[planter]

What exactly are you dosing the tank with? (Dr Mallick has a range of products..not sure which you are using though.) The frequency of the dosage? How much are you dosing? What kind of NO3 kit are you using? How much water change are you performing weekly?

Regards
Peter Gwee

Hi bro, Thanks for the reply, I'm using Dr mallick Lushgro Aqua,Lushgro Micro, Kno3, Mgso4, K2So4,KH2Po4. I dose once every week.

The amount are:
Total FE 0.63 PPM
Total NO3 10.14 PPM
Total K 24.77 PPM
Total PO4 1 PPM

[PeterGwee]

Planter, you only need to dose the KNO3, KH2PO4 and micros. CO2 is your biggest issue as far as I can see. Nothing is working well now due to your CO2 issue. Once you get it over with, you will see a mark improvement in plant growth.

I'll suggest the following...
1)Trim away the dead looking leaves..no point keeping them.
2)Clean the filter and glass
3)Do a large 50% water change
4)Add 1 teaspoon of KNO3 2x a week
5)Add 1/8 teaspoon of KH2PO4 2x a week
6)Add 20ml of micros 2-3x a week
7)Review your CO2 for a day or so. Make sure it stays around 25-35ppm throughout the photoperiod. Consider adding a piece of riccia rock to the tank which is visible to you and note if it pearls about 1/2 way through the photoperiod. The riccia should respond and pearl well if the CO2 is indeed what it is measuring. If not, add a bit more incremently and observe for a day or two before making changes again. Make sure the critters are not stress when you do this.

Regards
Peter Gwee

[planter]

Planter, you only need to dose the KNO3, KH2PO4 and micros. CO2 is your biggest issue as far as I can see. Nothing is working well now due to your CO2 issue. Once you get it over with, you will see a mark improvement in plant growth.

I'll suggest the following...
1)Trim away the dead looking leaves..no point keeping them.
2)Clean the filter and glass
3)Do a large 50% water change
4)Add 1 teaspoon of KNO3 2x a week
5)Add 1/8 teaspoon of KH2PO4 2x a week
6)Add 20ml of micros 2-3x a week
7)Review your CO2 for a day or so. Make sure it stays around 25-35ppm throughout the photoperiod. Consider adding a piece of riccia rock to the tank which is visible to you and note if it pearls about 1/2 way through the photoperiod. The riccia should respond and pearl well if the CO2 is indeed what it is measuring. If not, add a bit more incremently and observe for a day or two before making changes again. Make sure the critters are not stress when you do this.

Regards
Peter Gwee

Thanks Bro for your suggestion. I too have a riccia ball in my tank, they pearl like mad during the photo period. I doubt Co2 is the reason for the hair grass to turn brown. I actually use the PH & KH table as a guide for my Co2. I have a KH about 3-4 dkh and my PH is about 6.6 so i will have about 22-30ppm of Co2. I think that should be enough right? These are my school of thoughts, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

[PeterGwee]

Well, you stated the range of 6.6-6.8 though. With a KH of 3-4 at that range, you are running low sometimes. If its a nutrients issue, doing it 2x a week instead of once a week should improve things.

Regards
Peter Gwee

[ching4ever]

wow~ur nice is very nice and pretty. i didn't try hairgrass before so i not dare to give any comments. BTW, ur moss growing very pretty also, what kind of moss is that? thx

[planter]

Well, you stated the range of 6.6-6.8 though. With a KH of 3-4 at that range, you are running low sometimes. If its a nutrients issue, doing it 2x a week instead of once a week should improve things.

Regards
Peter Gwee

Thanks bro for the advise, will look into my dosage.

[planter]

wow~ur nice is very nice and pretty. i didn't try hairgrass before so i not dare to give any comments. BTW, ur moss growing very pretty also, what kind of moss is that? thx

Thanks bro, That is the java moss that i have...

[juggler]

Thanks bro, the first pic was taken about 1 month ago. The 2nd pic is taken recently where the hair grass look abit brown rather then green. And yes i used to trim them but now there are too little for me to trim.

Want to check with you if the HG turns brown when you trim them. If the grass blade were to be cut, it will start to turn brown and die, right?

[planter]

Want to check with you if the HG turns brown when you trim them. If the grass blade were to be cut, it will start to turn brown and die, right?

Hi Bro, Yes they will turn brown and die. I was wondering if there are such thing like the base fert turn bad?? Does anyone know more on this??