Reply With QuoteWorst ich death rate? Hmm... It wiped the entire neon tetra population... But only the neon tetras only...
Hi ppl,
just got started on a 2ft planted tank,
so now some of my fishes ( 2 tetras ,1 SAE) got the ich....
hmm i've added the anti-ich formula but... just wondering wats the worst ich death....rate you ppl experienced~
thanks and regards
The juggling apprentice fish
Worst ich death rate? Hmm... It wiped the entire neon tetra population... But only the neon tetras only...
I guess there's no typical ich death rate? Probably the worst is that if left untreated it would eventually infect the whole tank and all your tank inhibitants.
I am fighting ich in my tank currently as well, and am following the salt treatment as mentioned by some of the guys here (you can find in the fauna section). Just remember to keep your treatment for at least 2-3 weeks even though you do not see any more white spots as there might still be some left in the water.
Let's both wipe out this ich...
Another good thing: I read that that once you managed to cure your existing fishes of it, it should develop an immunity to this again(of course this does not apply to new fishes you add to the tank).
Cheers,
Joe
i'm also wanting to try the salt method but alas i think otos are intolerent??
anyway my outbreak started 2 days ago, my tank is 3 days old.. sadz....
so i guess the ich must be from the lfs, since everything in aquarium is new+sterilised.
guess my n-cycling method by plant doesn't work so well....
my fishes are stressed.......
hahah i'm stressed, instead of working i surfing AQ....
Oops... I think you may be right about otos there...Originally Posted by ntoken
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebI...inclusart.htm:
The too-common infestations of ich can be quickly resolved with malachite with or without formaldehyde preparations. Be wary of utilizing salt, metal (copper) or insecticide (DTHP, Masoten, Dylox, Neguvon) medications on Otocinclus; they succumb to these treatments more readily than the apparent cause you're treating.
Not sure if there's a safe level that is still safe for otos yet can treat the disease? Anyone here has done it before?
I think I better get my otos out from the tank and keep them separately for a while.
Cheers,
Joe
If your tank is only 3 days old, it would not have gone through the proper cycling, this might have caused stress to the newly introduced fish and cause the ich to break in. It's always good to cycle for at least 2 weeks before introducing any fishes. I know it's hard to resist the temptation to add fishes immediately, been there done that...
Cheers,
Joe
Yippie!! Reptiles and Fishies!
Worst inch infection for me ah?? errr..
Boraras merah, brigittae, merah...about 25 total..=$36
2-3 nannostomus species... about 5 in total = $15
total cost = $51 bucks in fish...
Having chance to buy NEW fish for tank = priceless
lol.. actually.. i was wondering...is it true that once a fish has survived an ich infestation that it will be more resistant to the next attack should there be one?
cannot remember where exactly I read it from last night... but I found another article which says the same thing:
http://aquascienceresearch.com/APInfo/Ich.htm
What about immunity and re-infestation?
As with most animals, fishes have a fairly well-developed immune system. Once a fish has suffered an ich infestation and survived, it is less likely to develope the disease again. This, of course, assumes the fish is not severely stressed at a time when the parasite is also present in the water.
Of course with all things on the net... do take it with a pinch of salt...[pun intended]
Cheers,
Joe
hi ppl;
today is day 6, only 1 white spot on 1 neon tetra.
no new infection hopefully, i'll continue to dose. (for those curious; i dosed only 1/4 of the recommended dosage on day 3, so taking account of that, i'll dose 1/5 this evening, (hopes otos wun get chemical burns~)
side topic~ anyone knows good shop selling roborovski hamsters?
I thought the ich has gone over the last weekend, then it re-appeared this week...
I am continuing to keep up with the salt treatment... also just turned off the fan as well, since the higher temperature is supposed to help kill them too...
Kill the ich...
Cheers,
Joe
2nd week of my tank and the ich gone.... hope it doesnt make a comeback,
Thanks ppl
Higher temperature does not kill the tomites. It merely speeds up its infection cycle. The only way you can kill it is when it leaves its host. Consider doing the salt treatment one week after the infection seem to have cleared should do the trick.I thought the ich has gone over the last weekend, then it re-appeared this week...
I am continuing to keep up with the salt treatment... also just turned off the fan as well, since the higher temperature is supposed to help kill them too...
Kill the ich...
Singapore is hot enough so give your fish a break and do not raise the temperature further. O2 is lesser at higher temperatures as well.
Regards
Peter Gwee
Thanks for the advise, Peter!
I have just started the fan back again, after noticing my temperature going up to as high as 32C.
When you said doing the salt treatment one week after the infection seems to have cleared, does that mean for the meantime I can step off the salt treatment? Would there be several cycles of ich going on at the same time, thus there might currently be some lying around even though it's not visible?
Cheers,
Joe
Yes, you can stop the salt treatment once the white spots are cleared for a week or so. Now, your critters are sick due to those poor environmental conditions you have given them (signs of gasping and dying shrimps are no good.). Correct the conditions and find out why they are gasping. (most likely not enough O2 from too little surface movement or too much CO2 perharps.) Regular water changes help to keep critters healthy but non-CO2 tanks are of a different nature.Thanks for the advise, Peter!
I have just started the fan back again, after noticing my temperature going up to as high as 32C.
When you said doing the salt treatment one week after the infection seems to have cleared, does that mean for the meantime I can step off the salt treatment? Would there be several cycles of ich going on at the same time, thus there might currently be some lying around even though it's not visible?
Regards
Peter Gwee
Yes, I think my tank may have developed a poor condition and I have not figured out why. But then again, my shrimps are still spawning non-stop.Yes, you can stop the salt treatment once the white spots are cleared for a week or so. Now, your critters are sick due to those poor environmental conditions you have given them (signs of gasping and dying shrimps are no good.). Correct the conditions and find out why they are gasping. (most likely not enough O2 from too little surface movement or too much CO2 perharps.) Regular water changes help to keep critters healthy but non-CO2 tanks are of a different nature.
Regards
Peter Gwee
I will probably go back to my regular weekly water changing routine for the time being. It's only the pencils that are on the surface, my tetras and rummies are still in their usual territories. Maybe different fishes. Not sure if I should pump in CO2 again so that the plants can produce more O2? I think I shall monitor the situation now after I had the fan on, should create more O2 exchange.
Cheers,
Joe
Hi,
I have the same problem in my 4ft tank. I just started treatment with Mardel Coppersafe yesterday.
One thing I do not know is how offen to dose this?
The instruction says 1-month treatment, but does not say how offen muct one dose the coppersafe.
Anyone can help?
MS
Hmm, does the ich disease affect shrimps? I have some fishes with ich and I've removed them from the tank. But I'm wondering whether I shld do a water change for the tank since there are only shrimps left now..
What I understand is that it should nto affect shrimps. I have yet to see any of the shrimps with white spots. Though they do have red/brown/other colours spots...but those are natural and only seen when you look closely.
By right, if you do not have fishes in the tank right now, the white spots should die by themselves after 1-2 weeks (?) as they do not have any hosts to attach too after they spawned. Don't just take my words for this, it would be good for you to check this out too.
Cheers,
Joe
Usually I go through an ich attack with minimal casualties, I thought it is a very common disease not usually fatal.I would add an ich treatment medication from Azoo, which seems to work for me.
My friend got the same problem, he managed to cured his other fishes, but I think he added too much of the medication and wipe out all his otos.
I agree that those skin type fish (non scale) are quite sensitive to all these medications.
No sure, what happens when left untreated.
Did you use methelane blue to treat the ich? By the way won't chemicals that are used to treat diseases affect the biological filter?
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