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Y e s (10 characters)Originally Posted by ronig
Hi all,
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i am planing to start a very low maintainance 2 ft planted tank...with only java moss growing at the bottom.
i had tied the moss to wire mesh and layed them across the bottom of the tank. Tank size 2 x 1 x 1 ft. Lighting come with only 10w...8 hours a day.
is my setup ok? please advise thanks
cheers
ronig
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thanks for the reply Goon.
nonetheless, some people say that my lighting might be too low? which will result in slower moss growth and dull colour. True?
anything i need to know to make the moss grow faster and healthy?
thanks again
IMHO your light is too low. I'd go for at least 24W.
Slower moss growth is definate. But dull colour... I'm not sure. YMMW(your mileage may vary).
Not really, he stated a "very low" maintenance tank....
it will indeed be very slow.... moss no need too much lights, just give them cool water, add a fan
For live consultation, you may check with the owner of Nature Aquarium. His moss tanks are good living example. I am a long time admirer of his moss tanks.
Anyway. Moss tank - low temp is everything. Btw, Mr.Chan also said that higher light made the moss greener. I was wondering how to balance it with the nutrients dosages with such high lighting (3W/G). And there wasn't any floating plants in those tanks, btw
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But 10W. I tried using a 13W light tube. The tank looked like some perpetually dark sceneBut of course ronig, it's up to you
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Coolish water (below 26C) seems to be the best guarantee of good moss growth. Ronig's setup should be ok, lightwise, if no CO2/fert is injected/added.
wow...thanks for all the advise guys!
anyway, just realize that my light is 15W (FL daylight) instead of 10W. Will stay with this amount at the moment and add if the need arises.
i will try to keep my temp below 28c. and add 'all-in-one' liquid fert every week. Hope it will grow well.
Thanks for all your super effort!
Cheers
Ronig
Is CO2 injection needed for java moss?
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krabbie, CO2 injection is optional, depends entirely on what kind of setup you want to have.
Actually, might be too much, try once a fortnight or once a month....
I got a 5G tank that I dose just 1 -2 pump of Ferka Aquatiliser about once every fortnight even though its running on 36w lights with no CO2. My tank of narrow Java and taiwan moss seems to be growing well, though extremely slow.
Ronig,
Since its low maintainance, probably you could try to forego putting fertilizers. Just top up water! Haha... Not sure whether this will work...
Like other bro here suggest, temperature is important. I have a little tank with light from office ceiling, which is adequate for it to grow already.
Maybe you can get more moss, instead of waiting for it to cover the tank, since Java is cheap.
Actually, I am thinking of setting up a low tech small shrimp tank (with only PL or FL lamp) in my office. I believe the air-con in the office will help to bring down the temp of the water, however, I am not sure if I need CO2 in this kind of setup. I will probably give up the idea if CO2 is needed.
krabbie, CO2 injection is optional, depends entirely on what kind of setup you want to have.
For a small shrimp tank with java moss, what do I need?
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No need substrate.. just a bed of moss.... if just shrimp, no need filter as well.... just weekly 1/3 water change/top up.
Hi all,
It have been 4 days since the setup, and i can see young shoots coming out from the tip of the moss....good sign i suppose.
at the same time i also notice small little light green algae (not really visable unless you really up close) growing on the glass. Is this the 1st sign of 'trouble'?
when should i start introducing the algae 'crew'? i am planning to have just a pair of apisto eventually. any suggestion what algae crew i need to get? and how many of them?
Thanks again
ron
i had bought 2 otos to control possible algae outbreak..is this enough? i have heard that different animals eat different type of algae...if this is so, what other fish should i also get?
i am planing to keep a pair of apistos eventually, so i think shripm is out right?
please advise. thanks
Ron
Some algae is inevitable since you want a low maintainence tank, and it has only ground cover of Java moss.
Better ways of controlling algae will be to start dosing liquid fertilisers to cover all the nutrients needed by plants, but I guess you do not want the trouble. Yamatos and otocinclus should be good enough. Keep the tank stable and Java Moss growing well and algae shouldn't bother you.
Apistos with shrimp is a definate no-no. Apistos in a tank with just Java moss covering the ground? I don't think they'll like the lack of hiding spaces
I just add java moss in my tank, I can see bubble comes from it, but not as many as the bubbles come from riccia fluitans.
Does moss produce bubbles too?
About shrimp tank, I plan to set one also. And I’m wondering if we add algae eaters (e.g.: SAE, other algae eater fish, snails) in it, will they eat the shrimp’s eggs?
If they do, we can’t breed the shrimps easily…
If we don’t add any substrate in the moss tank, then I guess they just depend on liquid fert…?
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