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    anyone knows these pencilfishes?

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    Any pencilfish maniacs here can help me with these?

    apologise for the lousy pix, uncooperative buggers and some fins also not yet healed.

    First two pix should be same species, but is it possible they are a pair? size about 5cm.







    and then this guy, looks some what similar but smaller at 3cm. think this is a separate species.

    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Wa Choy.. cant guess like that leh...need to see head shape leh i think.

    At first i thought it was N. harrisoni but no lah..the shape looks wrong..to short...haha

    My best guess would be a discoloured N. digrammus or a N. nitidus... the latter would be more doubtful...but if it is must tell me where you get..

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    Hmm... from Choong Sua Aquarium?

    You need heavy diffusion to avoid the hot spots.

    Cheers,
    I have dwarf cichlids in my tanks! Do you?

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    benny, buggers are not cooperative, they hide at the back of the tank where I have a problem reaching them with lighting (photo tank is too deep, 1 ft). just want to grab some pix in case they jump or what, before they heal up their fins.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranmasatome
    Wa Choy.. cant guess like that leh...need to see head shape leh i think.

    At first i thought it was N. harrisoni but no lah..the shape looks wrong..to short...haha

    My best guess would be a discoloured N. digrammus or a N. nitidus... the latter would be more doubtful...but if it is must tell me where you get..

    eh, already showing profile ah, not close up enough har?

    someone suggested N. bifasciatus. got them from CS lah.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Heok Hui suggested N. digrammus (all three) as N. bifasciatus has no adipose fin. now must go take pix of the other super small ones.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    Heok Hui suggested N. digrammus (all three) as N. bifasciatus has no adipose fin. now must go take pix of the other super small ones.
    when did it came in?
    Nicholas

    Newbie en el cichlid enano

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    think they have been there for some time liao. but still have quite a bit ah.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    Heok Hui suggested N. digrammus (all three) as N. bifasciatus has no adipose fin. now must go take pix of the other super small ones.
    Yup.. bifasucatus also the body looks way different. so my guess not bad lah..

    EH.. got your pm.. i can pass you the fishes since i dont know what to do with them and want to replace them with Puntius gerius..

    i think got about 4 species..

    Too bad these pencil fishes not N. nitidus.. so nice that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny
    You need heavy diffusion to avoid the hot spots.

    Cheers,

    good sample pix to use for the Adobe Highlight Recovery technique.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranmasatome
    Yup.. bifasucatus also the body looks way different. so my guess not bad lah..

    EH.. got your pm.. i can pass you the fishes since i dont know what to do with them and want to replace them with Puntius gerius..

    i think got about 4 species..

    Too bad these pencil fishes not N. nitidus.. so nice that one...

    har? I was going to offer you the Hemiodus gracilis
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    wah.. this one ah.. can la.. i exchange with you..

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    Ranma, I think I mentioned this before but nitidus I spotted only a single specimen once at Gan's FF. It was a contaminant with some tetras. Never took it.

    These pencils have been at CS for almost half a year already and nobody noticed them. I knew they were different but I've never positively known their ID. I dislike pencils since I've had problems with them in the past, especially with eques and beckfordi. But seeing how small these fellas are, I might get a few.. just to try out.
    Fish.. Simply Irresistable
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    stormhawki, as you may know Peter Cottle stated that these are N. marilynae and he has never seen N. digrammus ever.

    There is also a tank of "rocket" pencils (there should be two species in there).

    That nitidus from Gan ended up in MrTree's tank I believe.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Well if Pete says so and CS uncle mentioned something like marilynae right? Then marilynae it is.

    I know about the mixed up rocket tank. Nannostomus unifasciatus with eques. Both species banging up each other in the tank. Luckily there's a good number in the tank otherwise I bet the fights might be fatal.

    I had a feeling the nitidus would be with Tree. I was with Benny when I saw it and somebody took it anyway. Never bothered to find out since I'm not a characin nut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk
    Ranma, I think I mentioned this before but nitidus I spotted only a single specimen once at Gan's FF. It was a contaminant with some tetras. Never took it.

    These pencils have been at CS for almost half a year already and nobody noticed them. I knew they were different but I've never positively known their ID. I dislike pencils since I've had problems with them in the past, especially with eques and beckfordi. But seeing how small these fellas are, I might get a few.. just to try out.
    i saw them actually..but it was like a really quick glance and since then i've always thought they were bifaciatus... way to over look things..

    Eh.. did you see that on another thread.. someone bought Ladigesia roloffi today!!!!

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    Really?! Roloffi in SG? Where where? I didn't notice any threads mentioning roloffi. Me drooling for some..
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    yah but that guy hasn't reply WHERE he got them! assuming they ARE roloffi
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    He probably mixed them up with something else I think.

    By the way, what's the thread link?
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    one eye fish
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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