Inhumane treatment of pests?

**ranmasatome** · 8th Nov 2005, 12:04

Originally Posted by vinz

Here's an interesting take...

Aren't humans pests in a way? We move into an area, destroy the natural environment, grow crops, build golf courses, homes, buildings...

Then when the native fauna comes and trys to survive or just do what they naturally do, we kill them...

MY take exactly... thanks for pointing this out Vinz. Its irony actually.. humans being the only species capable of saving the other species out there. Moves into what was previously other faunas space, developes the area, drives out local wildlife, then when they are plagued by what was previously there.. Humans complain and say that these "PEST" are invading "our"??? territory!! and then procedes to wipe them off the face of this earth as if its their fault!!! i mean!! c'mon!! its bloody ridiculous.

**XnSdVd** · 8th Nov 2005, 22:09

-Points an accusing finger at all of you-

SNAIL MURDERERS!!

Haha, but seriously, I doubt there's a proper defination for "pest". Generally anything people find annoying is a pest. Like SNAILS -glare-

**budak** · 8th Nov 2005, 22:17

Those big snails commonly found on the roadside (or mashed up on the road) are actually from Africa.

**Justikanz** · 8th Nov 2005, 23:52

XnSdVd, actually, I try not to kill them liao... I transfer them to 2 tanks, those in my room are the lucky ones, they go to my temp paludarium and they thrive... Those outside go to my Sultan Fish tank.. where the sultans will usually eat them the moment I place them in...

Originally Posted by budak

Those big snails commonly found on the roadside (or mashed up on the road) are actually from Africa.

Izzit?? Wow... Didn't noticed... Tot they became rare and was feeling sad... Now that they are not local... I dun feel so bad liao...

**floatbloat** · 16th Dec 2005, 20:14

i guess as humans we have put ourselves in a very privileged position as the highest echelons of this world. this is both good and bad, but i believe it is what lies in between that matters, i.e ethics. why is this good and why is that bad?

anyway, in our said position we can change things but change isn't something we would be comfortable with too. as idiosyncratic wannabe geniuses and self-righteous activists, contradiction is truly what makes the world go round. try asking a tree hugging hippie not to smoke a cigarette or a postmodern artist to not ask what time it is (stereotypes are stereotypes only because they exist).

as humans we are doomed to delve in the glory of not God/s but contradiction. so what do we do? we underline the contradiction by logging on to the net and complain! you know, there is something very endearing about this. don't be ashamed because at least there is speech (sorta)/ action. did i mention that as humans we tend to be able to dig out all forms of justifications?

that said, i think the problem is just that we are too comfortable. but are we going to do something drastic about it? who wants to raise their hands? a revolution doesn't belong to just one person, it belongs to the world. which makes me think-

damn, i wish i was living in the 70s with today's money

**XnSdVd** · 17th Dec 2005, 02:49

-Raises his "Save the snails" signboard-

Who wants to start a revolution? Everyone, who wants it enough to do it? No one. Society is a sign of growth that retards growth. No? I believe it is... ever notice people who stand out too much are "crazy"?

**budak** · 17th Dec 2005, 10:12

no, they are called arrogant, tyrannical and hypocritical.

**stormhawk** · 17th Dec 2005, 11:12

I'm still wondering how a thread on inhumane treatment of pests just turned into human-bashing thread.

Too much hippie-pie can turn people into weed-smoking maniacs.

Waves his *Save The Snails* signboard alongside XnS.

**stormhawk** · 17th Dec 2005, 11:14

Originally Posted by budak

Those big snails commonly found on the roadside (or mashed up on the road) are actually from Africa.

Budak, you got any idea on their actual species name? This bit of info is interesting. I only know they're just the common field snail or something like that. Was featured in a science guidebook I read when I was in primary school.

**XnSdVd** · 18th Dec 2005, 01:07

Hey! they were in my book too! and there was a little section at the bottom that was like "Snail sambal!"

**budak** · 18th Dec 2005, 01:12

Pdf of a study here: http://www.hear.org/books/tgas1961/p...1chapter02.pdf

This guy at NUS studies them too, and anabantoids as well! http://www.dbs.nus.edu.sg/staff/ip.htm

**stormhawk** · 18th Dec 2005, 01:15

Originally Posted by XnSdVd

Hey! they were in my book too! and there was a little section at the bottom that was like "Snail sambal!"

That's the book!

**XnSdVd** · 18th Dec 2005, 01:17

The mini science encyclopedia? haha, I loved that book!

**Justikanz** · 21st Dec 2005, 13:49

As I was watching 'King Kong' last night, I suddenly recalled this thread. I am now even more into 'Human Bashing'... *Sigh*... While the story might be, well, just a story, such events are happening everywhere, captive cature of free-to-roam animals for $$ or for the desire to try to eat something different... Or the fear of something they dun understand and trying to kill it presuming that it will harm humans... Or the rejection and misunderstanding of a simple love or request for love and friendship from a creature that don't speak or understand our language... *Sigh*...

I cried non-stop for the last 30-45mins of the movie (Yes, I was THAT emotional + maybe I was really tired and stressed out for the past 2 weeks)... I was very upset after watching the movie...

Oh well, for those who love big creatures and CGIs, enjoy this otherwise, rather entertaining movie.

**XnSdVd** · 21st Dec 2005, 13:58

Hey! I caught it yesterday too, "Man is the real monster" was what I walked outta there thinking. BTW you should get the book "The Natural History of Skull Island" I'm sure budak would agree

**Justikanz** · 21st Dec 2005, 14:01

There is a real Skull Island??

That was the FIRST time I watched 'King Kong', whichever the version, by the way...

**XnSdVd** · 21st Dec 2005, 14:07

Haha, no it's a fictional ecological study. Everything is/should be bioglgically and ecologically correct. But it was thought up by a writer. For eg. The wall and gates were the ruins of a lost civilisation(sp?) The reason why it extends into the sea is because Skull island was sinking.(sank shortly before WWII according the the book) so... you know, let your imagination run, I'm getting myself the book for christmas

Anyone wanna mass order with me?

**stormhawk** · 21st Dec 2005, 14:24

Dude, you cried?!

Yes sad as it was I found it to be a moving show since the animators did a great job in showing the emotions of Kong. A big thumbs-up to the fellas who did the CGI for Kong.

**Justikanz** · 21st Dec 2005, 14:26

It was like a tap turned on... So LONG never cry like dat... And there were also several people around me sniffing...

**semota** · 21st Dec 2005, 14:28

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realised that you are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do
not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every
natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus." Agent Smith, THE MATRIX

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