Apistogramma sp. ‘Jura II’

**benny** · 13th Nov 2005, 02:24

Hi guys,

Just got this fish today and baby sitting it for one of our folks here. Thought I'll take a happy snappy to show you guys anyway....

I thought it was premium price for a fish like that, but it's from Wilhelm, Germany.

Anyone with any information or links on this particular fish?

Cheers,

**benny** · 13th Nov 2005, 02:46

Another picture showing how quickly it mark out a cave for itself.

Cheers,

**benetay** · 13th Nov 2005, 12:52

Thats a nice fella once the colouration all comes out as it ages..The fins are all form nicely, not a touch of bad remarks. It'll grow up to be an awesome fish.

Pretty quick to get a photo shot.

So...

Where is that responsible owner who is suppose to get it?

I'm also interested in a little more information on this fish but i can't find any...anybody?

**DEA** · 13th Nov 2005, 14:55

those are some truly beautiful shots
nice work

**yorky** · 13th Nov 2005, 15:16

Benny, great looking fish!
good selection.

By the way, got you a copy of the Cory and the Apisto book!
And a copy of ADA catalogue.
Err... got myself some fishes again.. : )

**Simon** · 13th Nov 2005, 15:54

benny, use a mirror and get a shot of it flaring up ;P

**Wackytpt** · 13th Nov 2005, 16:44

Originally Posted by yorky

Benny, great looking fish!
good selection.

By the way, got you a copy of the Cory and the Apisto book!
And a copy of ADA catalogue.
Err... got myself some fishes again.. : )

Yorky,

what fish u got again.. can't resist temptation again.. haha

**Wackytpt** · 13th Nov 2005, 16:45

Originally Posted by benny

Another picture showing how quickly it mark out a cave for itself.

Cheers,

BEnny... where u got that cave.. i like.. pls let me know

**benny** · 13th Nov 2005, 17:58

Originally Posted by Wackytpt

BEnny... where u got that cave.. i like.. pls let me know

That's the cave from Starpet, the Japanese aquarium decoration company. I don't think their products are distributed in Singapore. Can't seem to find them here. Perhaps yorky can get them for you from Japan.

I like them because they are open at the bottom and most of all, very natural looking. Good for cichlids and catfishes as they come in various sizes.

Cheers,

**Simon** · 13th Nov 2005, 18:24

you mean that cave not nature rock har? quite nice looking, or better than those minture claypot I used to have

**SCOPE** · 13th Nov 2005, 23:43

Originally Posted by benny

Hi guys,

Just got this fish today and baby sitting it for one of our folks here. Thought I'll take a happy snappy to show you guys anyway....

I thought it was premium price for a fish like that, but it's from Wilhelm, Germany.

Anyone with any information or links on this particular fish?

Cheers,

Bro, this fish is still semi-adult stage....
This is not wild?
Are you paying very high price for them?
I just got similar fish ard the same size also from HK,
i was told they are wild...but i think they are not, look like yours..
yes, very nice fishes...very stable showing lots of colors...

**benny** · 14th Nov 2005, 00:09

Originally Posted by SCOPE

Bro, this fish is still semi-adult stage....
This is not wild?
Are you paying very high price for them?
I just got similar fish ard the same size also from HK,
i was told they are wild...but i think they are not, look like yours..
yes, very nice fishes...very stable showing lots of colors...

These are from Mr. Wilhelm's stocklist in Germany. Confirmed bred specimens and supposingly showing good coloration. But to be honest, I have the impression that it's usually difficult to tell wild specimens from F1 specimens.

Not too sure about it being semi-adult stage as I'm an apisto dummy. Fish is about 5 cm in total length.

Picture was taken when fish was 15 minutes into the holding tank after a full day of travelling. Lucky shot.

Cheers,

**SCOPE** · 14th Nov 2005, 01:49

Thanks so much, for all your inputs of this fish...it helps me in identifying the fish i had too.
Hope to see more beautiful pictures of it soon.

Originally Posted by benny

These are from Mr. Wilhelm's stocklist in Germany. Confirmed bred specimens and supposingly showing good coloration. But to be honest, I have the impression that it's usually difficult to tell wild specimens from F1 specimens.

Not too sure about it being semi-adult stage as I'm an apisto dummy. Fish is about 5 cm in total length.

Picture was taken when fish was 15 minutes into the holding tank after a full day of travelling. Lucky shot.

Cheers,

**stormhawk** · 14th Nov 2005, 10:13

Originally Posted by benny

But to be honest, I have the impression that it's usually difficult to tell wild specimens from F1 specimens.

Benny, wild specimens usually have raggedy fins, but they are pretty robust in a captive environment if you acclimatise them to the food and water slowly. But then again this rule is pretty much a variable since some wild specimens that appear here are pretty robust and colourful. I wouldn't be surprised if we get the second-ranked fishes since the best are almost always shipped to the rich markets of Eastern Asia.

Captive-bred F1 or Fx specimens usually have more colour if they are line-bred responsibly. Then again, most lines are usually infused with wild genes to ensure that the subsequent offspring remain strong and retain their colours even in captivity.

In this hobby, its true that its hard to tell them apart but who cares if they're pretty and colourful?

**Kross** · 14th Nov 2005, 11:26

I want wild A.Jurua directly shipped from South America.....

Any LFS has??

**Wackytpt** · 14th Nov 2005, 11:35

Originally Posted by Kross

I want wild A.Jurua directly shipped from South America.....

Any LFS has??

there are only a few LFS specialize in apisto. Try enquiring from EC OR Biotope

**benny** · 14th Nov 2005, 11:56

Originally Posted by Wackytpt

there are only a few LFS specialize in apisto. Try enquiring from EC OR Biotope

I recall seeing them a few days ago, but their prices.....

Cheers,

**yorky** · 14th Nov 2005, 17:13

Have you guys heard of Apisto sp Blauspiegel?
Its a Pulchra form..

Er.. Oh.. saw from Apisto sp Rio Xingu also..

And I got myself a pair of Apisto Agassizi 'Rio Purus' and a super chio Eunotus.
er... they are stunning!
And at the moment can't decide between the Rio Xingu or the sp Blauspiegel..
Also, got lots of wild T. Candidi selling at v high prices!
Now wonder we can't find them here! haha!

**SCOPE** · 14th Nov 2005, 17:20

Originally Posted by yorky

Have you guys heard of Apisto sp Blauspiegel?
Its a Pulchra form..

Er.. Oh.. saw from Apisto sp Rio Xingu also..

And I got myself a pair of Apisto Agassizi 'Rio Purus' and a super chio Eunotus.
er... they are stunning!
And at the moment can't decide between the Rio Xingu or the sp Blauspiegel..
Also, got lots of wild T. Candidi selling at v high prices!
Now wonder we can't find them here! haha!

WOW, lots of good stuff from Japan.....
Hope to see the pixs soon

**benny** · 14th Nov 2005, 17:53

Originally Posted by yorky

And I got myself a pair of Apisto Agassizi 'Rio Purus' and a super chio Eunotus.
er... they are stunning!
And at the moment can't decide between the Rio Xingu or the sp Blauspiegel..
Also, got lots of wild T. Candidi selling at v high prices!
Now wonder we can't find them here! haha!

Looks like you will not have enough tanks when you come back....

Anyway, so was the T. candidi cheaper in Japan or Taipei? Those I saw in Taipei were about 1.5 to 2.5 cm only.

Cheers,

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