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    Question Any advice on 8" cube tank ?

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    I have one 8" cube tank, plan to start with a easy/less maintance tank. Please advise:

    - Lighting
    - Substrate
    - Plants
    - Fishes
    - CO2 & Filter (needed?)
    - Anything else is important...

    Thanks in advance.
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    I hope to achieve this kind of effect (as photo ADA small cube tank). Difficult or easy ?

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    Wow, looks easy and cheap. What does the tank holds? Is it a need for the substrate to be so thick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monk2k
    Wow, looks easy and cheap. What does the tank holds? Is it a need for the substrate to be so thick?
    I'm not sure as this is tank from Tokyo ADA agent. Normally for nano tank, the substrate is all very thick..may be someone here can explain why ?
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    No idea, but it should be fairly easy to get Riccia just grown like that. The beauty is the equipment

    Lighting: 18W PL
    Substrate: ADA Aquasoil? Lapis sand can do well too.. since Riccia doesn't need ferts from the substrate.
    Plants: Very fine leaved ones must be used... HC, Riccia, hairgrass. ADA only reproduces mountain landscapes in such small tanks, with only one plant species usually.
    Fishes: Hardly any I've seen in ADA, but Boraras species are good. I'd not put any fish though.
    Fliter/CO2: Up to you.
    Anything else: Managing such a small tank is going to be a difficult task

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    Quote Originally Posted by |squee|
    No idea, but it should be fairly easy to get Riccia just grown like that. The beauty is the equipment

    Lighting: 18W PL
    Substrate: ADA Aquasoil? Lapis sand can do well too.. since Riccia doesn't need ferts from the substrate.
    Plants: Very fine leaved ones must be used... HC, Riccia, hairgrass. ADA only reproduces mountain landscapes in such small tanks, with only one plant species usually.
    Fishes: Hardly any I've seen in ADA, but Boraras species are good. I'd not put any fish though.
    Fliter/CO2: Up to you.
    Anything else: Managing such a small tank is going to be a difficult task
    Totally agreed. You know the little ADA cube tank (no joint) here cost about S$800.

    Thanks for the advice. Can normally IKEA spot-light okay as the water volume is less than 3 gallon.
    I guess small tank easy to 'manage' but to achieve the result must be damn hard....
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    Hi star flog,

    I guess spot light will heat up the water. Especially when the volume of water is already so small, more easily heated up. try to find those clipped on light.

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    Thanks for the advice.

    I did a draft paper calculation on 8" cube. If the glass thickness is 5mm + substrate is 2 inches and the water top-up almost to the tank edge. Which mean the from subtrate surface where the hairglass is to the water surface is less than 5.5 inches.

    Based on above calculation, what kind of light suitable and I guess normall IKea home spot-light too hot ?
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    I thought before about using ambient light from my other tanks as lighting. You know, the sides of the aquarium are always lighted up. Place the small tank next to it to make use of the light, maybe?

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    Anyone can clear this for me? I was always told to use the 20-40W per square foot(144") rule for nano set-ups.. Like to achieve 30W per square foot for an 8" cube would be to use about 13W of light.
    So for this guy's case... He should use about 8 - 17W, depending on what he wants to achieve...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianclaw
    Anyone can clear this for me? I was always told to use the 20-40W per square foot(144") rule for nano set-ups.. Like to achieve 30W per square foot for an 8" cube would be to use about 13W of light.
    So for this guy's case... He should use about 8 - 17W, depending on what he wants to achieve...
    Interesting to know this formula. If I want to plant hairgrass, 13W enough and how height show the hang the light as the water voluem is about less than 2 gallon. If too clsoe to water, it may heat up the tank very quickly...
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    Thing is... You definietly can't go by the WPG rule for nanos... Think about it. Would 4W over a 1 gallon tank mean you have a high light tank? No, it doesn't. Algae and moss are the 2 most possible things that you could grow in a tank with that kind of light. How high the light has to be? I can't answer that. I do know that air is a lousy heat conductor and as long as there is a proper flow of air between the water's surface and the bulb, the water will be fine. I have about 18W over a 4 gallon tank(in air conditioned environment) and the lights are about 3 inches away from the water's surface, this tank's temps stay steady at about 25°C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianclaw
    Thing is... You definietly can't go by the WPG rule for nanos... Think about it. Would 4W over a 1 gallon tank mean you have a high light tank? No, it doesn't. Algae and moss are the 2 most possible things that you could grow in a tank with that kind of light. How high the light has to be? I can't answer that. I do know that air is a lousy heat conductor and as long as there is a proper flow of air between the water's surface and the bulb, the water will be fine. I have about 18W over a 4 gallon tank(in air conditioned environment) and the lights are about 3 inches away from the water's surface, this tank's temps stay steady at about 25°C.
    Appreciated for your comments.
    I read this site (http://www.aquahobby.com/garden/e_El...is_parvula.php ) saying that Dwarf Hairgrass need "any light" to grow. How's true ?
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    Got my first plan done up (as photo) and comments welcome.
    1) Tank - 8" cube (water volume 1.8 gallon)
    2) 4 pieces of Dragon rocks (rocks arrangment not finalize)
    3) 2kg of ADA Soil
    4) IKEA light 7 watt (Not enough)
    5) Plant - Hairgrass
    6) No CO2 & filter

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    Looks good from what I can see, maybe a few more shots from the different faces of the cube? I'm curious, where'd you get that cube from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianclaw
    Looks good from what I can see, maybe a few more shots from the different faces of the cube? I'm curious, where'd you get that cube from?
    You can get this kind of cube tank from many fish shops.

    Actually some member is now selling it. please see http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...894#post141894

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    Some update. Only let Riccia float and hairgrass will come next.

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    cool...we have almost the same setup.. different light though...though your substrate is thicker..waiting to see how your tank will turn out!

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