Reply With QuoteOf all the parameters temperature is the most important. You should maintain <28 degrees. Above 30, the moss will either not grow or die.
CO2 and ferts are good to have but not really essential.
Any bros can advice what I need to take note when keeping taiwan moss? Some parameters that I need to consider to grow them well.
1. Light requirement
2. Water parameter
3. Temperature
4. Trace element (liquid fertilizer required?)
Any other conditions or equipment need to consider to grow them? I currently keeping 2 planted tanks with fishes and intend to put them in one of the low-maintenance planted tank. Below is the tank setup:
2 ft glass tank
OHF
Jebao 36W PL light
Lapis sand
Plants: 2 big nanas, 2 small nanas, 1 java fern on driftwood
Fishs: 7 swordtails, 25 cherry barbs, 1 catfish (suppose to eat algea and keeps hiding)
Thanks in advance for any advice.
The Incongruous Slaughterer
Of all the parameters temperature is the most important. You should maintain <28 degrees. Above 30, the moss will either not grow or die.
CO2 and ferts are good to have but not really essential.
Thanks for your advice. From many threads, also mention about temperature. Since the area is not airy, temp is usually a little high. (Last time in front of main door so a little better). Will take note of this.
I have intention to have DYI fans for the tanks but since with OHF & light set, placement of the fan is a concern. Will work on that. Thanks again.
Try to placed the moss at an area that have some current flow and temp <= 28 deg.
I've more leaves in my tank!
I notice that you are using OHF. Wouldn't it disturb the gravel when the water goes splashing down?
If budget allows, try replace the filter and you will have space to install a fan! Good luck!
Last edited by benny; 7th Dec 2005 at 14:07.
The OHF is a bit old so not that strong already and does not disturb the water surface/gravel too much. If I can have my way, I would like to replace it with a canister filter but I cannot find one that I like for sale in the forum.May attach the DIY fan to the light stand (at an angle).
If I place it near the current, would the moss have problem getting CO2 or nutrients from the water?
I've more leaves in my tank!
diki,
Actually moss is an easy plant that doesnt require alot of lights, nutrient and CO2. As long as the temp is low, then it shouldn't be problem. By the way, wouldn't your OHF block some of your light, especially when you are using stand? Why not change to a cheap internal filter or HOT filter first? Then slowly check if any of the forumers are selling the brand of canister you want
OHF is not very good for planted tank IMHE.
Last edited by benny; 7th Dec 2005 at 14:08.
IMO, the most important parameter is temperature!
They love cold water!
Many mosses are quite hardy and therefore all the other parameter are secondary!
The water disturbance caused by the OHF will cause a great deal loss of CO2!
That is why OHF is not recommended for planted!
Try to change to a canister filter!
There are quite a few affordable and value for money brand out there!
Of course if budget permits go for Eheim!
i had a 1ft tank keepin taiwan moss. the temp is around 25 - 27 and i using ocean free hang on filter.
after 4 hours of lighting i discover the taiwan moss start bubbling.
temperature is really important ( 2 diy dc fan ) and co2 will speed up the growth rate.
cw
It does block some of the light but since I need some clearance to feed my fishes, that will have to do for now. Somemore got the 36W PL light so should be able to cover most of the areas in the tank. Have not done any scaping yet (waiting for my other moss on driftwood/bogwood to be ready before I put into the tank with fishes. Don't want any fish disturbing my plants before they are growing). Actually the problem is that the number of fishes coming into the tank is going to increase from 29 to 50+.Originally Posted by hirowen
diki,
Actually moss is an easy plant that doesnt require alot of lights, nutrient and co2. As long as the temp is low, then it shouldn't be problem. btw, won't your OHF block some of ur light, esp when u using stand? Why not change to a cheap internal filter or HOT filter first? Then slowly check if any of the forumers are selling the brand of canister u want
OHF is not very good for planted tank IMHE.Currently have cherry barbs and swordtails. Bringing in cardinals. Be getting them from a bro so need a bigger filter for BB to offset the bioload.
Have thought of those options but don't think they can take that kind bioload.
That I know. That is why I still want a canister filter but waiting for to chance on a one I want. Currently using Ehiem 2213 for another 2 ft tank. Silence, low power and effective. May want to get another 2213 or similar one.
Most of the ones that I know cost at least $55+ for a new one. No budget for that and also don't want to get a too powerful one (tinking of electric bill every month) Thanks for your advice.
What is the light (wattage) are u using? Which type(size) of DIY fans are u using? Tie them 2 in a row?i had a 1ft tank keepin taiwan moss. the temp is around 25 - 27 and i using ocean free hang on filter.
after 4 hours of lighting i discover the taiwan moss start bubbling.
temperature is really important ( 2 diy dc fan ) and co2 will speed up the growth rate.
cw
use a jebao 18w 1ft PL lamp specially for HC and moss at behind using a table lamp 9w PL. fan put seperately at behind 2 corner and is jus normal computer 12v DC fan.
cw
So you are using a total of 27 W of lighting for your plants and using 2 fans?
Last edited by benny; 7th Dec 2005 at 14:12.
Recently my moss turned brown..
My lightning for my 2 feet tank is 72W and I leave it on for 7 hours.
I think the temperature was getting too high. At about 30 degrees..seems like there is no way my moss is gonna live now..
Last edited by benny; 7th Dec 2005 at 14:11.
Actually you can lower the temperature by reducing the number of lights for your 2 ft tank, if possible. Another way is to install DIY fan or buy a commercial fan to cool the water.
If you still have some green moss from the brown ones, separate them and grow from there. Have heard from someone that the brown moss need some months to become green (I mean grow new moss) but with the effort, I think might as well get new one. I do admit I have "killed" some of the java moss in my tank before.
Last edited by benny; 7th Dec 2005 at 14:10.
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