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    base fert got into the water column

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    I decided to replant my gratiola and in trying to lift up the stalk managed to get JBL base fert all over the water column, it was so bad visibility was around 4-in.

    I changed 75% water, much better but water is still murky and I can see some fert settling on the gravel. I'm using an Eheim 2222. Any recommendation what to do? I am afraid of an algae bloom due to nutrient overdose...

    and should I wash the filter pads when the water finally clears?

    thanx!
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    i got that too
    but mine is bioplast fert which doesn't dissolve into the water column and is still there today
    i think you have to suck up as much as you can and do water changes until it clears up

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    thanx Yimin, do you think it will cause an algae bloom?

    I shudder to think when I will have to remove the huge Echinodorus osiris and the red tiger lotus [] [] []
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    add some fast growers in the suck up the nutrients

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    mine caused minimal algae problems
    mainly on the glass, the furry types which you can rub off with fingers alone
    the rest of the plants were left alone

    but i changed water almost daily then

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    Been there, done that...Mine is JBL fert too.... no major problems when I uprooted my plants. Just do more frquent water changes. In future, when you uprooting plants, get somebody to help you siphon as you uproot the plant. It will minimise the contamination.
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    There's a trick to minimise base fert getting out, but kinda tedious and I imagine quite difficult when trying to uproot something at the back of a 2 foot tall tank.

    Pull out the stem enough to see the top of the major roots. Then leaving the plant stem alone, uproot each major root one by one.
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    Actually I was wondering is it possible to stick a scissor into the gravel and snip the plant leaving only the roots and a little stem to rot in the substrate? You think it might sprout again? [:0]
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    Problem is you can't see and the gravel prevents your scissors from closing properly. You might end up snipping roots of plants nearby too.

    One possibility is to uproot partially and snip off at gravel level. Then push the leftover back in again. If I intend to throw the bottoms away, I just break off the major roots and remove the rest of the plant. Or if its plants like echinodorus with wide root networks, uproot till you have enough roots for replanting and snip off.
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    Try to minimise leaving roots in the gravel... they will rot inside.

    Vinz,
    I tried your method and I must say this is one of the best method. Not that tedious IMO. If got fren help you siphon even better.
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    no lar, IMO.. the better way is spihon while pull them out.. i always do it while doing a water change

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    Simon,

    Seriously speaking..... pulling out the roots one by one really good way. It would be even better if you do it while siphoning the water.
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    i have no idea what you're talking about now sherwin
    first you say nizz's cutting idea is good, now u say pull?

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    Eh... sorry did I say to cut is better...... must be getting really old cos I stil don't see any posting about me saying cutting better.

    I did say siphoning while uprooting is better. And futher explanation, pull out roots one by one while siphoning is best (if not bestest!). In fact me just uprooted my E. hormanni 'green' with the pulling root by root and siphoning method.... no cloud.
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    Sherchoo,

    No lah, DEA is confused... first, nizz never posted in this thread unless he's referring to another. He may have been mislead when you commented about my first post (about uprooting) while my second post (about cutting) is right above your comment.
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    To prevent base fert go into water current, i used to getting small plastic container to cultivate high maintenance plant in my tank such as stemmed plant which required frequent pruning. I has been using this method for years and so far pruning is a breeze for me as i only have to bring out the container from the tank, pull out the plant, replant the top part and that is it!
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    you put the container into the gravel? doesn't that stir up the fert too (only on 3cm gravel) and does it now limit root growth?
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    On 5/28/2002 1:09:14 PM

    Try to minimise leaving roots in the gravel... they will rot inside.

    Vinz,
    I tried your method and I must say this is one of the best method. Not that tedious IMO. If got fren help you siphon even better.
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    paiseh, i confused vinz with nizz

    sherwin, u said his method is better rite? that's what i gather cos he said to cut

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    DEA,

    You're forgiven.
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    On 5/30/2002 1:35:23 AM

    you put the container into the gravel? doesn't that stir up the fert too (only on 3cm gravel) and does it now limit root growth?
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    Don't worry, 3 to 4 cm gravel is able to hold the fert.Anyway, this method is useful for stemmed plant as its root network is limited and easy for pruning. Echinodorus species such as Amazon sword also no problem at all.

    Unfortunately, i don't have digicam, or else i can show you how my tank look like, all my plant are cultivate in plastic containers(not the original basket) and was hidden properly. I has been using this method for years and no regret so far.
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