What the difference between Apistogramma viejita & macmasteri?

[sheng]

Hi all,
May i know what the different between Apisto viejita & macmasteri?
how to see the different?
thanks

[yorky]

hi sheng,
Rather than para-phrasing the experts, I've attached the discussion from Apistogramma.com here.
Generally, its hard to tell and mostly, the aquarium strain is so inter-bred that its hard to find actual specimens.
That's why I am a proponent of good lineage breeding - even to the point of specific location.

http://forum.apistogramma.com/showth...ght=macmasteri

[Giant]

Spotted a male macmasteri over at Sam's in United Square yesterday going for $30.
Whereas all the other apistos there were in the 3 digit region.

[outspoken]

There's one huge macmasteri male at Sam Yick Marine Parade going for $20.
that is the only apisto left at there...dun think they are bring in anymore over there.

[kray]

Spotted a male macmasteri over at Sam's in United Square yesterday going for $30.
Whereas all the other apistos there were in the 3 digit region.

Hello bro.. mind listing down what SY United Square has at this moment? Are these new stocks?

[Giant]

Er... sorry bro, my shor term memory not very good, so can't really remember their names, I only saw 3-4 pairs there.

[genes]

i cannot differentiate confidently an Ap. viejita and an Ap. macmasteri as well. Be it some caudal peduncle spot or lateral bands... sometimes they just look so similiar. Thats why in the market, sometimes, Ap. viejita is sold as Ap. macmasteri and vice versa. However, i feel that Ap. viejita should have a much slender body then the Ap. macmasteri which has a broader body.

[Zenislev]

Well, the stripes macmasteri are much less prominent than a viejita's. The caudal spot on a macmasteri is like a rectangular shape, while the spot on viejita is more round or oval in shape. And also take note that the male viejita have very long dorsal and anal fins that can be longer than the caudal fin.

FYI

YouTube - Apistogramma macmasteri family

[Samuel2618]

Hi Guys..

The mac usually have a broader body whereas the Viejita has a more slender body.. Hope that will help.. Pleae refer to the article below if it helps..

http://aquaworld.netfirms.com/Cichli...ma_viejita.htm

And as for the discussion.. It's in this link..
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=33828

Anyway it's doesnt really matter la.. So long if the colours is nice and you love your fishes.. That is most important..

[doubleace]

Well, the stripes macmasteri are much less prominent than a viejita's. The caudal spot on a macmasteri is like a rectangular shape, while the spot on viejita is more round or oval in shape. And also take note that the male viejita have very long dorsal and anal fins that can can be longer than the caudal fin.

FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mr4u89DbCY&NR=1

Thanks bro

Hi Guys..

The mac usually have a broader body whereas the Viejita has a more slender body.. Hope that will help.. Pleae refer to the article below if it helps..

http://aquaworld.netfirms.com/Cichli...ma_viejita.htm

Noted thanks bro.

[wiki]

Note the difference on the 1st dorsal spine between Ap. macmasteri & Ap. vijeta when they flare. Ap. vijeta's 1st dorsal spine is solid black in color, while Ap. macmasteri does not have it.

[cricha]

Great tip Wiki.

I was confused by many different pics of Ap. macmasteri that don't look like my fish. I've just checked my Ap. macmasteri and it doesn't have the solid black 1st dorsal spine.

[wiki]

Don't mention it Chris. Take your time to observe, be comfortable and get familar with the specimens you keep. You will find them very interesting along the way.
Feel free to meet up if you drop by for a visit.