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Anyone have any idea how much something like that would cost? I'd imagine there would be a huge cost difference between glass and acrylic. Not to mention safety.
From what I know a glass tank would have to be constructed on-site. Probably using starphire/crystal glass since the glass would probably be about 20-30mm thick. Floatglass just wouldn't work.
Acrylic could be made of a continuous sheet and bonded at a corner to create an almost seamless tank(according to most acry manufacturers I've asked). It's clearer than glass and wont explode if there's a crack. Lighter. and possibly cheaper than crystal glass. Scratches will be a big problem but some manufacturers provide a lifetime warranty!
"Why?" no no, the question is not why, but "why not?" I'm planning to get a ground floor HDB sometime in late 2009 or early 2010 so structural problems aren't really an issue. And hey, it'd look great right in the middle of a living room. So why not? I mean it, can anyone see a reason not to? cos I'd hate to make a mistake this big
So, here's the question:
Floatglass: $?
Starphire: $?
Acrylic: $?
Reason not to: ?
And anyone wanna sell their ground floor HDB in 2009?
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1) you would have to suit up and get into the tank EVERYWEEK to prune the damn plants.
Yes, i happen to be able to scubadive...I'm using my 6ft to experiment. The only problem now is the brown slime that appears on the glass occasionally. No other algae. Also my scapes are mostly sparse with low growing plants. Aside from my aubertii which seems to be growing VERY slowly. I haven't reached into that tank since... november?
Yes why not,save for 3 years for enormous cost and dive into it.
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Maybe Amano's huge tank is a gd reference 4 u.
Its was said to cost > $400K.
http://www.oscarfish.com/takashi-ama...s-vt46172.html
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ad.php?t=12284
Or maybe u want a even bigger tank. 50,000 Gallon Monster Mega Tank
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/fo...2&page=1&pp=10
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Think you can buy another flat with the kind of money you need to set it up right...
Anyway, does that mean you are not getting furniture? 12' x 4ft is pretty big for HDB standards... Your wife-to-be ok or not... If not, the project can only be a dream ah...
Oh, with that kind of HUGE tank, better don't save on the lights... No point saving and having to clear up the brown algae... Hard work ah...
My 2 cents... Minute when compared to the project cost...
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"SO BIG!" Remember the radio ad? Well, it's time you start calculating the electrical consumption. Need to scout around for tankmaker especially the cabinetmaker. Also, go to HDB and ask whether structurally the floor can tahan the weight. I don't know how the flat is constructed. How many filters you are going to use. Well, you have the time now to plan.
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Acrylic is the way to go.
Much better than glass.
Wonder why public aquariums use it??
It never scapes if you use the proper equipment and clean top to bottom, not side to side. Substrate choices also make a big difference in glass scratches.
Acrylic is easy to buff out any scratches also.
Try that on glass sometime.
It's also much stronger, lighter and will cost less for construction.
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Tom Barr
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would there be more flex though??
I wan to automate my tank!
Acrylic is suppose to be stronger than glass. Its a gd idea but sourcing for a acrylic tank maker for such a size is tricky in Singapore.
My 2cts.
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Seriously, has anyone in Singapore ever done such a huge setup before? You could be the next local Takashi Amano!
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It's almost impossible to find glass thicker than 19 mm and it's heavy and expensive. For the bigger projects, it's usually acrylic, as pointed out by Tom. Acrylic can be much thicker and lighter.
Another advantage of acrylic is that there is no color cast. It's totally transparent.
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IMO, I wun trust their worksmanship for such a big aquarium. Suggest try asking Dama Enterprise (http://www.dama.com.sg) or Ian from http://www.iaquatic.comOriginally Posted by ranmasatome
Ian's work
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Hey man,
Goodness! 12x4x4 is huge!! 12 feet still ok lah.. it's the x4x4 that is going to make it huge!!
Well, I think you need to consider more than just the cost of setting up the tank.
You would need to consider the running cost of such a monster as well. The amount of money you put into your hobby monthly? Multiply it by 3 or 4 and you will get an idea of your monthly running cost.
In competitive times, businessmen learnt not to ask too many questions.
You tell the tank maker "uncle, i want you to make a 12x4x4 tank for me" the fella is just going to say no problem and happily accept your payment. It is you who's gonna live with your decision, it's not as if you can sell off a tank of this size easily. Must consider properly. (which I think is what you're doing here)
Having said this, if you decide to go ahead, then I really look forward to seeing some great pics of you tank in the future!!
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Heheee, as heard over one of the radio advertisement, the tank maker will then ask you
"eh sir, can i also supply u the fish also ah? i got groupers, stingrays, dolphins, killer whales ...."
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The new big marine tank at Mount E is made of acrylic. Though you cannot see the joint when you are standing directly in front of it, the line is quite obvious when you stand a few feet away (side way) and glance sideway.
I think 12 ft tank is do-able. But 4ft wdth and hgt may be a problem for you when comes to maint and setup.
Another thing I learnt from my house reno is that 10ft (and below) glass is readily available in Singapore.
Anything wider than that can be a challange.
Meng Heng Glass does have 16ft x 16ft, 12mm glass. But the piece that was supplied to me (didn't buy the whole piece but about 13ft x 4ft) is of low quality and have lots of unevenness on the surface. That's not what you want for your tank.
I thought I read from arofanatics.com that tanks bigger than 10 ft was done before in Singapore. I think it is going to nice. Go for it if space and weight are not issues.
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OT. Pardon me if I'm wrong. Isn't the marine tank in Suntec make up of 3 different tanks?
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wow... does not seem proportionate but still wow in a nice sense. the WC, plumbing and and should be easy access...make use of filtered sunlight to reduce your power cost. i know this nice gentleman in jkt, pak okky who uses skylight to supplement his big tanks.
cheers...here's a photo
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