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    Plant ID help

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    Got some new plants today and hope they're what I think they are.

    Is this narrow leaf java fern? The shop owner said it's a taiwan fern.


    Is this c. wendtii 'tropico' or am I totally off.


    Finally, the farm I got these from said they were tenellus but they looked quite different from the tenellus I already had. Are these c parva?


    Thanks in advance!
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    I don't know what the first plant is but if its the Java fern, do we plant them with the rhizomes buried in the gravel? I always thought you should attach them to wood/rocks.


    the second plant is probably E.tennellus from emersed culture.
    I bought them in this form too.

    You should get new narrower and longer leaves growing after a few days.
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    Java fern or Taiwan fern, best to lift the rizhomes out of the substrate... Else, they might die off...

    The crypt is in emersed form (I think! It seems so... ). C.wendtii for sure, just dunno which form...

    The 3rd plant is Echinodoras tenellus, not Cryptocoryne parva... They're in emersed form... Will melt in a couple of week's time and the familiar submersed leaves will emerged after that...

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    The tenellus is in emersed form. I used to got those from Teo's farm. He told me to chop off the leaves before planting as it will melt and rot away. I did as told and in few weeks time, new pinkish leaves are all over.

    Tenellus is a pretty fast grower and will fill the whole tank if you leave it uncontrolled.

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    Thanks for the advice. What is the correct technique for planting plants with rhizomes then? I don't know how to keep them on the substrate and still have the rhizome above-ground.

    Pls advise urgently as I'll need to do some replanting before these ferns perish. Heh.

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    They dun rot so soon, but it is necessary to elevate them...

    For plants with rizhomes, plant the roots into the substrate and leave the rizhome on the substrate. If the roots are too short or thin, partially bury the rizhome, i.e. leave part of the rizhome unburied and make sure the substrate around the buried part is not compact...

    Java ferns are a little more difficult to plant on substrate as their roots are more fine and thin (if I didn't recall wrongly) and their rizhomes are thinner. But it can be done...

    Another way is to tie them to smaller pieces of wood or flat rectangular pieces of wood and then leave the wood on the substrate.

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    1st pic: Narrow leaf Java fern
    2nd pic: Most likely Wenditii 'Tropica' like you said. I wouldn't care really... crypts are so hard to identify submersed.
    3rd pic: E.tennellus in emersed form.

    You planted all plants rather low down in the gravel, I'd pull up each plant slightly so more "stem" is exposed, especially the narrow leaf and the crypt like the rest have said.

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    Thanks all for the help on the id of these plants.

    Spent quite a while trying to replant the java fern. Bought a pair of tweezers from NA today but it didn't help. Ended up using barehands.

    It was a very delicate process. Any slight mis-step and I'll uproot the plants that I've just planted. Phew. Hope the plants take root fast!

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    It takes some time to figure out how to use the tweezers to plant your plants... Especially when you are using lapis sand... sometimes you need to plant the root slightly deeper and let the surrounding sand hold the plant in place...

    And i hope you did not tie the ferns using the tweezers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by valice
    It takes some time to figure out how to use the tweezers to plant your plants... Especially when you are using lapis sand... sometimes you need to plant the root slightly deeper and let the surrounding sand hold the plant in place...

    And i hope you did not tie the ferns using the tweezers...
    What I normally do is to try and hold most of the roots with the tweezer in the vertical direction (same direction as the roots). This will helps to "protect" the root when inserting into the gravel. Push the plant as deep as possible into the gravel, but be careful not to hard and damage the roots. Hold the plant in place with the other hand near the gravel and slowly remove the tweezer. After removing the tweezer, pull the plant upward slowly till you see the crown.

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