Apistogramma sp. 'Wilhelmi'

**Cacatuoides** · 10th Feb 2006, 14:42

Hi guys,

Need your opinion on this fish here....i kinda like the coloration and its longish body....any folks here have any experience with them, in keeping or spawning? i'm thinking of keeping them in a tank of their own, maybe a pair?

**kray** · 10th Feb 2006, 15:15

I am keeping these guys... 2 males, 4 females.

Currently raising a batch of fries. Another pair is in the mood of spawning anytime now.

In my experience, not a difficult sp to keep. Undemanding lot. My first batch of fries were spawned in an unfiltered 12x8 inch tank

Very pretty when they are in spawning dress....

**mervin** · 10th Feb 2006, 16:57

they are about the esaiest to keep and spawn !

as usual, lots of hiding space, some plants(moss for spawnin) and keep the pH anywhere from 5-6.5 and they will spawn like rabbits !

have fun and good luck !

here are two old pixs.

**outspoken** · 10th Feb 2006, 17:17

Yup,got to agree..very nice species and quite easy to breed them.breed them once but due to my inexperience,went to feed them frequently,my male is like super huge and start killing one female and lost a lot of the fries.now left with only 2 fries.

Btw anyone got the male for sale?..mine is too aggresive cos its huge..look at the pic below.

**mervin** · 10th Feb 2006, 17:19

hahahaha !!!
lets exchange a male or female to get them going ?
that is not to have too much inbreeding ?

**kray** · 10th Feb 2006, 17:30

mervin,

Very clean tank...

mine is full of algae and dirt. :P

**mervin** · 10th Feb 2006, 18:11

Algae is good, they provide microscopic food for the newly hatched fries but dirt.......hahahaha !

**SCOPE** · 10th Feb 2006, 18:12

This is my old favourite....
One of the best color apisto

**benny** · 10th Feb 2006, 18:19

Originally Posted by mervin

Algae is good, they provide microscopic food for the newly hatched fries but dirt.......hahahaha !

The serious aquascapers will probably squirm at the idea, but some of the prettiest dwarf cichlids are in algae infested tanks and they have successful spawns!!

Cheers,

**benetay** · 10th Feb 2006, 18:38

Originally Posted by benny

The serious aquascapers will probably squirm at the idea, but some of the prettiest dwarf cichlids are in algae infested tanks and they have successful spawns!!

Cheers,

Agree...those microgobbies do have a lot of good stuff inside there...

**Cacatuoides** · 10th Feb 2006, 23:56

How much did you guys bought them for?

Wondering what's the market price now? I'm having a spare tank running with some white clouds. Still deciding which apisto to get....maybe can try to breeding also...hehe

**benny** · 11th Feb 2006, 01:03

Originally Posted by Cacatuoides

How much did you guys bought them for?

Wondering what's the market price now?

For me, the true value of each fish is in the enjoyment you get out of it.

And for dwarf cichlids, the prices varies due to the color, body form and the finnage. Therefore, there is no good reference price in my opinion. I have seen this fish for as much as S$240 a pair and as little as S$10 each.

Cheers,

**Cacatuoides** · 11th Feb 2006, 10:43

yea, i've heard of the huge price variation too.....deciding which apisto for my spare tank.....viejita red, macmasteri, hongsloi or some spp......wat do u guys think?

**benetay** · 11th Feb 2006, 12:37

For easier species you can always try mac, hongloi, wilhelmi, tri, caca etc,

For those more difficult ones will be diplo, mendezi, eli, paucisquamis, some other spp.

What i know is that so far, diplo and paucisquamis are the ones that have not been succussful over here. for the region it'll be paucisquamis due to their behaviour of killing their mate before spawning.

It was in one of the studies mentioning that apisto males will rule the entire bottom of a 200 x 80 cm perimeter. I guess some of us will know what apisto can do when they're in breeding mood. So please refrain from adding more pairs in the tank if you wish to breed them.

**Cacatuoides** · 11th Feb 2006, 13:17

i'm planning to have only 1 pair and some dither fish in a 2 footer with plants and drift wood for cover.

May get a pair of viejita red....haven't seen it around recently....

**benetay** · 11th Feb 2006, 14:51

Originally Posted by Cacatuoides

i'm planning to have only 1 pair and some dither fish in a 2 footer with plants and drift wood for cover.

May get a pair of viejita red....haven't seen it around recently....

i think thats a great setup for apisto only, viejita red, hmm, i've a pair at one of our forum member's house. Might consider releasing to forum members here too.

**outspoken** · 12th Feb 2006, 01:49

Originally Posted by mervin

hahahaha !!!
lets exchange a male or female to get them going ?
that is not to have too much inbreeding ?

Haha how i wish i have another female..left with 1 female so i dun can exchange.

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