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    Unhappy Why doesn't my plants pearl????

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    when i first started my tank, the plants were pearling....now they rarely pearl...is there any reason y????

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    your plants are probably doing better now and need more nutrients and co2 supplementation. that's my guess since you do not state your fert regime and co2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by standoyo
    your plants are probably doing better now and need more nutrients and co2 supplementation. that's my guess since you do not state your fert regime and co2.
    my co2 is canister.....my fert is jbl ferropol

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    not what type or brand bro but how much your are putting in...

    just up it a little and see
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    Quote Originally Posted by standoyo
    not what type or brand bro but how much your are putting in...

    just up it a little and see
    i dose half a capful per week..im afraid my shrimps wont be able to take too much ferts

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    try upping co2 then. should see some result sameday after dosing.
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    Plants usually stop pearling when there is a limitation of either CO2 or lighting. You using CO2 diffusor or reactor? Maybe its the problem of undissolved co2..juz my guessing..

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    I actually noticed that if there are too much CO2 in the tank, the plants wouldn't pearl too... My tank once had 90ppm of CO2... No pearling... But after tuning it down to 40ppm, some pearling starts...
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    Heh, from my experience (although minimal) I initially started with no pearling as well...

    I don't know it might be due to different reasons. But I managed to sort of 'remedy' this by doing the following. (Thought it would be nice to actually see the oxgen bubbles come streaming from the leaves, etc)

    1. I was using 4 X 36W FL tubes which I changed to 4 x T5HO 54W tubes.
    - The difference with this is that pearling did happen but only a few of the plants.

    2. I bought another set of T5HO tubes (now total of
    - Pearling was still very weak.

    3. Found out the root cause of the problem (maintaining at 30 to 35PPM)
    - Lack of CO2 distribution which I did by upping the CO2 and positioning the rainbar right above the substrate but water flow direction is towards the front of the tank

    - Introduced E.I fert regime

    4. Pearling started on all the plants (except my moss, which is growing rather well) after 1 hour + of photoperiod.

    Tank is like a big 7-up tank now.

    Hope this helps you bro.
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    hi thanks for advise however wat is the EI fert regime?
    Last edited by |squee|; 20th Feb 2006 at 00:50.

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    Hey there.

    It's been discussed on the thread that I have opened (look for page 8-9) http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=17434 and also at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=18448 for part 2. Mine's a 'dummy guide' and simplified it.

    You may also read up on http://www.barrreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1 from Tom Barr, the author of E.I for a more indepth look into Estimative Index.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_fox
    Hey there.

    It's been discussed on the thread that I have opened (look for page 8-9) http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=17434 and also at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=18448 for part 2. Mine's a 'dummy guide' and simplified it.

    You may also read up on http://www.barrreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1 from Tom Barr, the author of E.I for a more indepth look into Estimative Index.
    i was just wordering...is my bottle of JBL ferrorpol sufficient???

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    Yo bro,

    Not too sure about the chemical content in JBL Ferrorpol, maybe more experienced folks here can advise you on this.

    However from the fert regime that I am using. It has the essentials (and more - for buffer) and so far, the results with E.I are magnificient.

    I am using KNO3 (Potassium Nitrate from Dr. Mallick (LUSHGRO)), KH2PO4 (Monobasic Phosphate - from Fleet Enema), Flourish traces (to be replaced with Flourish Equilibrium & Flourish ) Flourish Iron, Flourish Potassium.

    You can get KNO3 from NA or direct from Dr. Mallick ($7.60 for 1 KG) KH2PO4 or Fleet Enema can be purchased at all Guardian Pharmacies, ask the pharmacist for Fleet Enema for adults and Seachem Flourish products at NA or all good aquarium outlets. Once you get these items I wouldn't mind helping you out on your fert regime and further explaining to you the logic behind this and would explain it to you in layman-terms A.K.A the simplest and most direct approach.

    (I too was lost when it came to E.I initially but with the help of the many out here, I began to slowly understand)

    Please note that E.I involves the standard 50% water change which is important and the proper dosing of ferts and last but not least, the main fella is your CO2 PPM.

    Assuming that you are using a ceramic diffuser. For the time being, play around with your CO2 and your position of the rainbar to have the CO2 dissipate througout your entire tank (pretty easy if your tank is a small one) just make sure your fauna don't konk out. If you are using an internal CO2 reactor, just position your rainbar (best to place it along the substrate; right below) or vertically.

    I personally think (from your signature) that your lighting is more than sufficient.
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    JBL Ferropol is not enough, it very likely does not contain nitrogen or phosphorous, two of the major amounts of elements needed by plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |squee|
    JBL Ferropol is not enough, it very likely does not contain nitrogen or phosphorous, two of the major amounts of elements needed by plants.
    im very afraid if i get those phosphate ferts it will overdose..anyway is it possible to get phosphate in liquid form?

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    Get Fleet Enema (bowel inducer) from the local Pharmacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtcc86
    im very afraid if i get those phosphate ferts it will overdose..anyway is it possible to get phosphate in liquid form?
    Phosphate solids are the easiest to dose... If you going EI, just use 0.1 teaspoon of it (since your tank size about the same as mine), to add about 1-2ppm of PO4... Don't have to absolutely accurate... Agar-agar can already... And if you buy Lushgro, it would come if a spoon, those that is given when you see a doc... And the small side (2.5ml) one, is 1/2 a teaspoon... So easy right?
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    Like grey_fox said, you can substitute phosphate salts with Fleet Enema. Note that you need to have different calculations for Fleet Enema dosing (Check APC's Fertiliator).

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