Hi,
Anyone tried goldfish in planted tank? I have 2 goldfish and i'm converting them to partial planted. I have put in low maintenance plant like fern and anubias...Only plant on driftwood as I do not have proper gravel.
Any comment? Thanks.
Regards,
James Ong
I recommend not doing it, as the goldfish tend to eat the plants when they are hungry. Precious Aquarium has a planted tank with goldfish in them, but they are fed 6 times a day. You also have nitrate overload because of their diet, so algae blooms can happen. It is not impossible to do, but you have to check which plants they don't eat or uproot and feed them alot and alot of water change.
Your anubias and fern are good choices for a goldfish planted since their leaves are harder and not tasty to goldfish... Vallis is good to imho... As the leaves are quite tough and rough...
And since they are nitrate makers, feeding probably have to be controlled to prevent algae bloom... So if you feed more, they sh!t more...
As I'm using pebbles as gravel....is there any other plant that i can get that is tie to driftwood or do u think i shd change the gravel?
Originally Posted by valice
furry plant grower
James,
Marimo balls are quite ok with goldfish too. Line the bottom with big and small ones can be nice and costly. They are effective filters too if you wash the dirt off them on your weekly water changes.
Oversize your filters and add lots of bio media. This is needed to convert the ammonia into nitrate quickly for planted tank with goldfish. Dose more KH2PO4 to match that NO3. Match that with sufficient daily Excel (Goldfish do better in alkaline water so CO2 and coral chips are poor companions) and low to medium light, and you should be doing ok with just 50% weekly water changes.
2 Goldfish is enough for a planted tank, don't be tempted to add more fish, add more plants instead. If you give your fish sufficient boiled lettuce and spinach daily, it will not need to graze on your tough anubias.
Enjoy.
Warm regards,
Lawrence Lee
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If you only have slow growing plant like anubias, have to be aware of algae. Lighting is a factor too for your plant and algae.
Artificial Intelligence
Hi Jamesoch,
My advise is forget about it, the effort is simply too much for you to enjoy the process. My 2 cents, goldfish and plants don't mix, period.
Something about the water & the fishes that calms me down.
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the advice. hard to giveup my goldfish unless i get another fish tank. Just exploring the possibility of best of both world.
Hi GaspingGurami,
Have not start any dosing..will add more plants first.
Hi lwm999,
I only have 2x 36w PL for a 3' x 2.5' x 2.5' tank...i think is very low right?
James Ong
Goldfish in your planted tank are like cows in a vegetalble garden. It's near impossible. BUT if you want to you can always try to "train" them not to eat the plants. Alot of us seem to forget that our "algae eaters" stop eating algae once they learn processed fish food tastes better. I'm usre it's the same with goldfish. But it did take a few weeks for my Garra flavatra to start on sinking pelletsThe lazy sucker...
Give it a try, post your findings. It'll be quite interesting to see if goldfish can develope a preference to food...
Actually i'm more worried for my oher small fishes than for the plant....
Goldfish in your planted tank are like cows in a vegetalble garden. It's near impossible. BUT if you want to you can always try to "train" them not to eat the plants. Alot of us seem to forget that our "algae eaters" stop eating algae once they learn processed fish food tastes better. I'm usre it's the same with goldfish. But it did take a few weeks for my Garra flavatra to start on sinking pellets
Give it a try, post your findings. It'll be quite interesting to see if goldfish can develope a preference to food...
James Ong
i faced and still facing a similar case..whether to do a planted goldfish tank coz i love them so much, but wanna maintain only 1 tank..
I think not possible in the long run... goldfish eat everything... earlier mentioned that vallis can be used..but no no no...mine eat a 60 cm (5-6x plants) in 2-3 days...
i dunno about nana etc..but i guess hungry goldfish can and will destroy everything...
also, i dun think they like strong lights as well...
so i would suggest a no... but the final answer will boil down to urself...hehe... sometimes we tend to act irrational since we like both plants and goldfish..
If you don't mind a pseudo planted tank. One method is to keep them in a shallow pond filled with duckweeds, hydrillas and water lettuce. Again, size and quantity matters, the less the better for goldfishes. Also those plants grow so fast, the fish could never finish it all in time. My friend has a pond just like that with mollies, lilies and lotus too. When he has too much plants, he just dump them into the koi pond aka the plant processor.
I think goldfishes are not advised for planted tanks coz tat time i got 9 goldfishes in my tank and they all messed up my scape...sianzzzz
I wudnt say I tried goldfish in a planted tank, but I did have 3 big ryukin with java fern on DW for about 6 months. The GF sometimes tries a few bite and dunt like it so they leave it alone. After sometime, they forget how it tastes like and they will try pull a few leave again.. but no major damage except that the plucked leaves can cover the filter inlet if not cleared regularly.
Actually, that's the destructive part of having a goldfish... Sometimes, they don't eat the plant at all... Just like to tug the bloody thing out of the substrate and then spit out half munched plants...
Long time ago had a goldfish that cleared out a pot of japonicas... With all the leaves floating on the surface...
I do have a planted tank 20 G with Orandas and the plants are doing well other than the algae problems. Yes, its true that initially goldies will go after plants but then if one is careful as to what kind of plants they have and feed the goldies properly, over a period of time they will stop messing with the plants. I have the following plants in my tank:
Java Ferns
Anubias
Crypts
Nuphar Japonica
Valls
Baby Tears
Vareigated Mint
Lilly
Echinodorous
But yes one can't surely have a amano tank with goldies.
Regards,
Regards,
Saugata Banerjee
I've got a 10 G setup with four young lionheads, and am a reasonably new hobbist.
The first plants I got were Green Cabombas. They were really nice to look at, but the four little buggers ripped them into shreds. Every morning when I wake up to do the routine check, there would be little pieces of the plants all over the water surface.
After that experience, I switched to Giant red bacopas (that's my guess what they are, and Ludwigia repens. My lionheads don't touch the bacopas, so they're surviving splendily. The repens get chewed on now and then, but not too much - apparently, the lionheads don't like the taste of these much too.
I personally think goldfish & planted don't mix. Plants require water temp to be cool before it can flourish but goldfish require it to be warmer otherwise white spots grow on them easily. That's why planted tank require fan/chiller and goldfisk tank require heater in LFS.
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Ahem, please!... Goldfish are cold water fish and actually don't do well in the warm waters on Singapore...
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anyone can post pic of planted tank with goldfish!
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