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    Fish Macro Photography Techniques

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    When looking at photos Benny, Wynx or Choy, I notice that the whole fish is in focused... But from my own pictures, usually only the head is in focus...

    My setup is 350D with Tamron 90mm... Haven't had the money to get the flash and transmitter yet...

    I use both AF and MF (normally MF is blurrer, cos can't gauge from viewfinder), half-press to focus on head then recompose...

    Any advise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by valice
    When looking at photos Benny, Wynx or Choy, I notice that the whole fish is in focused... But from my own pictures, usually only the head is in focus...

    My setup is 350D with Tamron 90mm... Haven't had the money to get the flash and transmitter yet...

    I use both AF and MF (normally MF is blurrer, cos can't gauge from viewfinder), half-press to focus on head then recompose...

    Any advise?

    Friend, I use manual Focus all the time. Using the 90mm Tamron as well. I think you should try to close up your aperture more when you shoot. I am not kidding you when I tell you I shoot at f/32 sometimes. This is for edge to edge sharpness.. Time to get an external flash and of course the transmitter...
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    he has no flash, so I bet he is shooting wide open.

    actually edwin, don't shoot at such small aperture, when the aperture is too small the picture softens due to diffraction. I usually don't do more than f/18.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Yah... remote flash is almost a must.

    I find aperture f/16-f/22 should give sufficient DOF on the 90mm. When shooting handheld, a shutter speed of 1/125 to 1/250 will help remove/reduce blurring from camera shake or fish movement. I can use up to 1/500 with my D70.

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    bclee, same thing for the canon, just use hispeed flash synx on the flash, good thing about the nikon, they have the commander mode, so do not require a separate device like the ST-E2 for the canon system

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    Yah... I got no flash... So I am really shooting very wide open... Now I understand... So because I am doing it at F2.8-F8, I am actually creating a very shallow DOF, hence only the head is in focused (due to the angle of the subject), right?

    If I take at F/16 or F22, I get dark dark pictures... So must use pop-up flash... So very ugly pictures...

    On flash, should get 430EX or 550EX? Read alot of reviews, but very few compare 430EX with 550EX... Normally is 430EX with 580EX or 420EX with 550EX or 430EX with 420EX... And if the usage is probably only limited to fish photography and indoor events, don't need to master control thingy on a 550EX right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon
    bclee, same thing for the canon, just use hispeed flash synx on the flash, good thing about the nikon, they have the commander mode, so do not require a separate device like the ST-E2 for the canon system
    simon, only the D70 can do that (not sure about D50). the others must use Nikon wireless transmitter.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valice
    Yah... I got no flash... So I am really shooting very wide open... Now I understand... So because I am doing it at F2.8-F8, I am actually creating a very shallow DOF, hence only the head is in focused (due to the angle of the subject), right?

    If I take at F/16 or F22, I get dark dark pictures... So must use pop-up flash... So very ugly pictures...

    On flash, should get 430EX or 550EX? Read alot of reviews, but very few compare 430EX with 550EX... Normally is 430EX with 580EX or 420EX with 550EX or 430EX with 420EX... And if the usage is probably only limited to fish photography and indoor events, don't need to master control thingy on a 550EX right?

    if the fish is at an angle, is very hard to get enough DOF at macro distance unless the angle is very shallow. one way is to pull back and crop the final image. DOF is a relation between aperture and object distance, the closer you are, the shallower the DOF, for a given aperture.

    also I would suggest a second hand 550EX, since you don't know when you may need a strong flash. I don't think the new flashes is that much more features over the older ones. ETTL-II is primarily a body-based feature, although some people claims the flash contributes too.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    if the fish is at an angle, is very hard to get enough DOF at macro distance unless the angle is very shallow. one way is to pull back and crop the final image. DOF is a relation between aperture and object distance, the closer you are, the shallower the DOF, for a given aperture.
    will take note of that when I next practise...

    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    also I would suggest a second hand 550EX, since you don't know when you may need a strong flash. I don't think the new flashes is that much more features over the older ones. ETTL-II is primarily a body-based feature, although some people claims the flash contributes too.
    maybe can borrow a flash from you guys one day to try it out... seen a few of the 2nd hand 550EX sold in CS... maybe next month...
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    I bought my 550EX second hand from CS also, $400 only. after 50,000 shots, still managed to outlast Simon and friends' Sigma.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Hmm... Tempting tempting...
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    don't forget to budget for the ST-E2
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    simon, only the D70 can do that (not sure about D50). the others must use Nikon wireless transmitter.
    D70s, D70 and D200 are able to use the built-in flash in "commander" mode to control remote flashes.

    D2X does not have built-in flash... so no choice.

    D50 does not have this feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon
    bclee, same thing for the canon, just use hispeed flash synx on the flash, good thing about the nikon, they have the commander mode, so do not require a separate device like the ST-E2 for the canon system
    ST-E2 is $200+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    I bought my 550EX second hand from CS also, $400 only. after 50,000 shots, still managed to outlast Simon and friends' Sigma.
    who said it outlast our sigma? I sold it away

    BClee, $300+

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    Simon, don't have to tell everyone you sold a lemon!

    price of ST-E2 drop liaoz, I heard CP selling at most $280.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    I sold it off because someone offered a good price for it. ST-E2 price dropped? CP @ $280? you sure? MScolor quoted 365. how can CP be that cheap

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    lemon seller!

    yah lah price drop liao lah.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    sigma flash all lemon? I not a pro canon user. quality and value for money within my budget always the first choice

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    Then how to determine the quality of the flash if buying 2nd hand at CS? Not like here buy fish or plants... Hahaha...
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