Hi guys,
I am virgin to planted tank and had mine just setup <1 mth with help from friends.
It goes on nicely for the 1st 2 weeks with plants pearling (I was so happy then..) then I "itchy hand" and went to add a chiller and drop the temperature by 3 degrees down (from 30 to 27). After that got the following problems:
1) Plants stop pearling.
2) Cardinals got white spot all over. Already had 3 casualties for last 3 days...very sad now..
3) pH level up fr 6.4 to 7 now..
I added aquarium salt as instructed. Bought a bottle of counter white spot lotion today just added into tank. Also adjsuted chiller to 30 degrees. Not sure what else can I do to save my fishes...Afraid to check out the tank every morning...Scare got another fish die on me...
Any suggestion is appreciated.
Artificial Intelligence
Hi Muakmuak,
Welcome to AQ, well you did the right thing. By raising the temperature, you'll definitely slow down the white spots. Salt is good but in small amounts. What anti whitespots medication are you using? Ph raising is kind of strange too. Could you elaborate more on what you added and what you have now, like plants, substrate? And What other actions you took? And 1 last thing just off the chiller, kind of costly having it to maintain 30
Something about the water & the fishes that calms me down.
Eh, you speed up the cycle instead of slowing it down by raising the temperature.
Salt is the cheapest and easiest way to go about treating ich but then again, you shouldn't have ich if the tank is well setup. The critters are obviously stressed and not likely from the addition of the chiller. Probably NTS if you did not add "mulm" to the filter/substrate and enough plants.
pH changes are common in a planted tank. Plants remove the CO2, the pH goes up. pH itself does not impact fish health.
Regards
Peter Gwee
Artificial Intelligence
Thanks Pete for the headsup, sorry muakmuak, Pete is correct. very sorry about the misleading info there.Probably 'stone' from too much work.
Something about the water & the fishes that calms me down.
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aeh i added too much ich medication (blue colour one) to my planted tank last time.. then the plants all turned yellowish..
but maybe your medication is safe...
I believed the outbreak could have been caused by the sudden drop in temp., assuming that you set the chiller at 27C upon installation!
You should have lower the temp. slowly over days!
Had worse experience too!Originally Posted by gorilla83
My plants din jus died on me, all the silicon around the tank was stained blue too!
And its impossible to remove!
Another good reason for black silicon over white ones!
Stated on the bottle: " may turn water blue"
Think it should have been: " Stained silicon as well! Impossible to remove!"
Hi and thanks Michael! Sorry for the long post as I am really newbie and hv to ask more questions..
I am not sure if I added the correct amt but I followed what was prescribed on the bottle and added in abt 10 teaspoons each for 2 days. My 4ft tank should have abt 240litres of water after minus the substrate.Salt is good but in small amounts
I bought fr LFS a bottle of Tetra Medica - ContraSpot Concentration. It is written that it is meant for white spot aquarium treatment. I still got casualties for the past 2 days though it had slowed down to 3-5 fishes per dayWhat anti whitespots medication are you using?sad sad....sign...
I am really new to keeping planted tank. I added the chiller before the fishes are having white spots. Prior to that they seem healthy and happy.Could you elaborate more on what you added and what you have now, like plants, substrate?
Substrate = Sera Floredepot
Fertiliser = Grandpor
Plants = not really sure of their names as I got it from Ah Pek from Pasir Ris Farmway.
Good point you have there! How dumb of me to leave it running at 30...just to confirm if I off the chiller, water from cannister will still flow thru chiller and back to my tank right? Not effect even if I off the chiller right?just off the chiller, kind of costly having it to maintain
Sorry Pete, could you pls advice me what is NTS? And what is a "mulm"? Thanks!Probably NTS if you did not add "mulm" to the filter/substrate and enough plants.
ya lor...i thought so but was too eager to test out if chiller is working fine..
sad sad....
Artificial Intelligence
Hi Muakmuak,
Tetra medica is a proven brand against whitespotsI've been using that with substancial success. How long has the disease been doing before you added the medication? If it's more than a week then the disease would have taken it's toll. If it was discovered early, like first or second day chances are you would have 95-100% recovery. Got to be careful here as secondary infection usually sets in after the first week. If you worry about the chiller just take out the 'in' and 'out' and join them with a ehiem tap. I don't think by switching it off will affect your water flow. Have fun.
Something about the water & the fishes that calms me down.
slowly acclaimatise your fishes to the temperature by decreasing the temp by 1C everyday. If your plants stop pearling, it doesnt mean that they are unhealthy. And 7 is a very good ph so dont worry bout it but if you wanna decrease it add some co2.
hmm...it should be coming to a week b4 i first started to treat the fishes... so that is probably why the medication has not been very effective... got to be more careful in future...
you are right, mike! saw another tetra without fin liao but still swimming ard but dun think it is going to make it....
i will do a 50% water change tmrw and hope it helps..
add co2 to lower ph level...okie ahkarboy, thanks very much. will do this after my water change completed.
btw what are the likely factors that stop the pearling? i missed those days watching them pearl and boy, the satisfaction feel!
NTS is New Tank Syndrome.
Something went wrong when you added the chiller. Think about any adjustments you might have made.
oic... thanks squee!
actually i didnt change any setting at all but the water temp was at 30 and i set it to 27. guess it is the sudden temp change causing stress ba?
I'm not sure about the factors because my plants have also stopped pearling but they are very healthy. If you really want to see them pearling, starve them of co2 then give them the co2 after a few days.
NTS- New tank syndrome. My first post
hi everyone, the whitespots on the fishes seems to hv subsided. casualties also reduced - maybe those that kena too much whitespot wl eventually still die..
i did the following treatments: tetra counterwhitespots medication + salt + up temp to 30.
today wl be doing 20% WC. hope to clear off whatever parasites in the water since there were quite heavy casualties over the past few days.
thanks again to all who shared your advice and experience.
Why does everyone assume fish are like people? A temp of 30 is rather high. And while the sudden drop in temperature did cause the whitespots it would be good if you slowly lowered it to 27 over a few days. Consider that neons come from brazil, the amazon specifically. The biggest river in the world is not 30degC.
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