Why do this??

**GaspingGurami** · 21st Mar 2006, 19:22

Originally Posted by hwchoy

personally for me, hunting is "acceptable", but "torturing" is not.

Ditto. Hunt the right thing at the right places, and don't do it for the pleasure of seeing a helpless animal suffer under your hands.

**BFG** · 21st Mar 2006, 19:56

Simon, what does a volunteer ranger do?

**Simon** · 21st Mar 2006, 21:37

from my ranger friend, a volunteers need to conduct guided walks, educating the visitors, help to keep a lookout for illegal activities...especially on weekends

member cougar88 is the ranger involved in the taking care of the baby at the Ranger station. She will also be watching out for potiental poachers in AQ :P

anyway, 'cougar' has asked me about raising funds for the baby lemur, anyone has any comments?

**hwchoy** · 21st Mar 2006, 22:07

Originally Posted by Simon

anyway, 'cougar' has asked me about raising funds for the baby lemur, anyone has any comments?

how much funding is needed? maybe we can organise a photoshoot for the baby, $10 take one pix? can raise $$ and generate publicity.

**cougar88** · 21st Mar 2006, 22:09

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the care & concern for the baby lemur. As of today, Baby has just managed to hv it's first meal. Hope it will continue to recover & survive with the hope of returning back to it's natural home. Please pray for Baby & keep it's mother in your thoughts. The only way to triumph over those culprits is for Baby to survive & gain it's freedom again.

Once again, Baby & Nparks appreciate & thank you for all your care & concern. Will update on news of Baby's progress.

Photoshoot will not be a good idea cos Baby sleeps during the day & flashes will scare him again..

**valice** · 21st Mar 2006, 22:12

Looking forward to good news about the recovery of the baby... :.pray.:

**Simon** · 21st Mar 2006, 22:17

Originally Posted by hwchoy

how much funding is needed? maybe we can organise a photoshoot for the baby, $10 take one pix? can raise $$ and generate publicity.

you want to blind the poor baby is it? and it will stress the poor bugger

we can think of something, when the actual figures is confirmed by the higher authority

. But keep those light bulbs litted

**hwchoy** · 21st Mar 2006, 22:28

Originally Posted by Simon

you want to blind the poor baby is it? and it will stress the poor bugger

we can think of something, when the actual figures is confirmed by the higher authority

. But keep those light bulbs litted

hello no need to use flash lah. available light photography if the baby can be brought out in the day and carried about in shaded areas. Perhaps a photography contest with the wining pix displayed at NParks HQ in SBG? That will make an education opportunity for the public.

we can raise funds straight away in forums where the news has been posted. I know it has appeared in AQ, ClubSnap and I think Petfrd. Perhaps sell t-shirts with the lemur graphic?

eh Fatt Seng, design a t-shirt for the lemur leh.

**Fei Miao** · 22nd Mar 2006, 09:51

Originally Posted by Simon

if you want to teach them a lesson then best for you to apply to be a volunteer ranger. I'm thinking of it, but my health status doesn't permit me to

How do one go about to be a volunteer ranger?

Choy, it'll be good exercise

**Simon** · 22nd Mar 2006, 09:58

Originally Posted by Fei Miao

How do one go about to be a volunteer ranger?

Choy, it'll be good exercise

Will let janet aka cougar know of your intention.

so who wants to volunteer to do up a T-shirt for fund raising?

**ranmasatome** · 22nd Mar 2006, 11:28

Janet.. if you need any help at all let me know.. i'll come down. i'm a wildlife biologist by training and i really want the baby to make it... besides i live close by so no problems at all..
i know i don't really know you... but i really have the babys interest at heart... perhaps the other mods can vouch for me..hahaha...
let us know if we, at AQ, can do anything to help...i'll be the first to jump on board.

**timebomb** · 22nd Mar 2006, 17:27

Just a suggestion, fellas,

If you're really serious about bringing the offenders who shot the "flying lemur" to justice; if you want to raise public awareness, I would suggest you forget about volunteering as a park ranger. Raising funds is great but let's put it to good use.

Why not start a fund and offer it as a reward for information leading to the arrests of the 3 culprits? There's 3 of them and chances are at least one would have boasted to a relative or friend about his dastardly deed. Surely, someone would know who they are. Let's walk the walk and not just talk the talk. I'm not rich but mark me down for $50. If you can find another 99 like me, you will have $5000, not a princely sum but probably enough to tempt someone to come forward with information. Get yourselves organised and let me know who to send the cheque to.

Loh K L

**cougar88** · 22nd Mar 2006, 22:28

Update:

Baby Lemur is a SHE. She has slight ulcer in her left eye, currently on medication. She is also on saline due to slight dehydration but today was eating well(3 meals). Still very weak & doesn't seem to have much neck control(neck keeps drooping down or sideways). Please continue to pray for her.

Thanks.

**valice** · 22nd Mar 2006, 22:50

News was reported in the Straits Times today... Hopefully someone(s) will come up to report on the three men...

**Jungle-mania** · 22nd Mar 2006, 23:29

KUDOS to you all, I think it is great to see like minded people who care for nature. Unfortunately, if I did see someone about to kill an animal, I will intervene immediately and if they do try to stop or attack me, well..its self-defense if I hurt them right?

Originally Posted by timebomb

Just a suggestion, fellas,

If you're really serious about bringing the offenders who shot the "flying lemur" to justice; if you want to raise public awareness, I would suggest you forget about volunteering as a park ranger. Raising funds is great but let's put it to good use.

Why not start a fund and offer it as a reward for information leading to the arrests of the 3 culprits? There's 3 of them and chances are at least one would have boasted to a relative or friend about his dastardly deed. Surely, someone would know who they are. Let's walk the walk and not just talk the talk. I'm not rich but mark me down for $50. If you can find another 99 like me, you will have $5000, not a princely sum but probably enough to tempt someone to come forward with information. Get yourselves organised and let me know who to send the cheque to.

Loh K L

mark me down too for $50.

**hwchoy** · 23rd Mar 2006, 00:12

Originally Posted by cougar88

Update:

Baby Lemur is a SHE. She has slight ulcer in her left eye, currently on medication. She is also on saline due to slight dehydration but today was eating well(3 meals). Still very weak & doesn't seem to have much neck control(neck keeps drooping down or sideways). Please continue to pray for her.

Thanks.

is there any existing picture of the baby lemur? or perhaps ranma go down and take a pix without flash?

if we are to raise a reward for information leading to prosecution of the culprits, we need to make some posters, get people to put up the pix/poster on their blogs, etc etc.

I will start the collection with a new thread.

also since it is a she, we should give her a name which will humanify her in the eyes of the public.

**valice** · 23rd Mar 2006, 00:13

There is a picture of the injured mother in today's newspaper I think...
I try to get an online one here and post it here for everyone to see...

Update:

Picture courtesy of The Straits Times Interactive

**Quixotic** · 23rd Mar 2006, 00:58

Originally Posted by valice

There is a picture of the injured mother in today's newspaper I think...
I try to get an online one here and post it here for everyone to see...

Update:

Picture courtesy of The Straits Times Interactive

Hmm... I do not have Straits Times or access to the Interactive, but isn't that the picture of the baby? If you follow the original photographer's account here, the caption reads, "Damn well camouflaged. I couldn't spot the baby until I heard it calling almost right next to my foot!".

Are the pictures usable from the original incident? Maybe can check with Aaron, the photographer and for permission as well.

**hwchoy** · 23rd Mar 2006, 01:00

Originally Posted by Quixotic

Hmm... I do not have Straits Times or access to the Interactive, but isn't that the picture of the baby? If you follow the original photographer's account here, the caption reads, "Damn well camouflaged. I couldn't spot the baby until I heard it calling almost right next to my foot!".

Are the pictures usable from the original incident? Maybe can check with Aaron, the photographer and for permission as well.

yup will do that. but that pix don't look pityful enough.

**Quixotic** · 23rd Mar 2006, 01:16

Originally Posted by hwchoy

yup will do that. but that pix don't look pityful enough.

Cool, otherwise can try to get permission for a photo shoot. Awaiting some good news then.

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