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Hi guys,
I'm going to rescape my tank to a amano style rockscape with only hair grass all round...
i've got 30KG worth of rocks, now, what is the ideal setup? do i need base fert? any recomemdations for gravel/sand/soil? whats the difference anyway?
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Last edited by Justikanz; 9th Jul 2006 at 23:00.
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Hmm, if you want to follow closely what Amano did, you could look at exactly what he uses. Of course, he uses all of the stuff he sells, so no worries in that area.
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how about that, post some pictures of the rocks and your tank. Perhaps some shot on different arrangement with the rock in the tank. as for the gravel, can consider those blending well and matching with your rocks?
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There are only a few simple things to consider before you can start straight away.
1) Tall or short setup?
This will affect the way you lay the rocks, as well as the type of hairgrass used.
2) What fish are you keeping?
This one will have an impact on the substrate you choose. Most likely, if you are bent on this setup, there will be minimum scaping once it's settled. ADA Aquasoil is recommended in this case and you do not need any other additional substrate unless you are considering powersand and such.
3) Your budget?
Hairgrass is cheap no matter where you get them from. They grow in just about anything but the choice will mostly depend on how much you want to spend on the substrate.
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Currently i'm using ADA soil, its not working for me... no power sand, and my plants are not growing well and constantly getting green water which is uncurable... so i thought of try out other brands of soil with the help of a base fert... of course with base fert, there will be as little rescaping as possible...
what i'm asking is, do hair grass need some kind of base fert? as the rocks are pretty big, the soil must be really high to hold them in place, would the HG be able to reach the base fert?
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Last edited by Justikanz; 9th Jul 2006 at 23:00.
Not the issue with the substrate but rather poor plant mass/ low CO2/ did not add "mulm" aka dirt from an established tank to kick start the bacteria culture.Originally Posted by fLuSh®
The onset of the greenwater presents tell-tale signs that the NH3/NH4 is not used up rapidly meaning poor plant growth (low uptake) and low bacteria count (did not convert the NH3/NH4 to NO3 fast enough.)
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I'm daily picking off those nasty white gravel that seem to find their own way to the top of ADA aquasoil. It is powersand which was laid 2 inches below the aquasoil!
I thought it will help if I followed ADA's recommendation of using powersand. I'm finding out the consequence of using it now. There are others that are facing this irritation too.
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Hair grass can grow in any gravel... ADA or inert lapis sand... I have them growing in both... You green water has nothing to do with the ADA aquasoil like Peter mentioned...
My case of green water is to the point where UV did not even clear a little, no medication can get rid of, limitless days of total darkness did no effect, no diatom filter can filter, millions of live daphnia can't make it better... conclusion: more than $200+++ spend on only TRYING to recify the green water... action: give up and format c:!
anyway, here are some details of my tank...
2 months old rockscape with hairgrass barely growing... 2 water change a week, pump bacteria at least 5 times a week, temp 26-27.5 degrees, PH 7.2, kh 2-3degrees, 5 hours lights from 1x39 watt T5HO with 4-5 bubbles/sec of CO2...
0 is the number of fishes in the tank, 50+ is the number of cherries in the tank... 3 pots of hornwots which eventually grew into 10 pots...
3/4 of my Ehiem 2026 is filled with biorings/substrate/biohomme, only 1 piece of blue coarse filter medium... so for 2 months with no fishes, and bactieria added very often, don't tell me sunlight from 5 meters away window is the cause...
at least 2 LFS i frequent have no clue whats going on in my tank... i'm just about there to giving up this hobby but decided to give it 1 last try... so if you know wat's the problem with my tank, and can help me solve it, i will really really appreciate it...
Last edited by Justikanz; 10th Jul 2006 at 11:56.
I use ADA soil with powersand + base fertilizer ... it grow very well for my hairgrass until too much than i uproot almost all ....
I would suggest you do a 100% water change and add in some liquid bateria and monitor for 2 weeks, if everything ok than put back your shrimp.
how big is your tank? you're using 1 X 39W T5 ...hairgrass need light and CO2 to grow well ... your temperature look ok to me.
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The way you mention it, your best solution is to start another tank, and maintain this one as culture tank for daphnia. This way, you never have to go buy live food anymore!You are one great greenwater grower, flushr! My neighbours are complaining of my smelly cultures, and all I've succeeded is a tank of light green tint which is insufficient to maintain a colony of monia
Jokes aside, I think something must be putting out lots of ammonia in your tank in order to get green water you described. Before you give up and reset the tank, try this process of elimination:
Get a clear tau huay tub and fill 3/4 of it with green water from your tank.
Leave it floating on the surface of your tank but make sure there is no water exchange. Add in some stalks of hornwort/Hygrophila difformis/salvinia and a bit of live daphnia to eat up the present green water algae.
Check this water after 2 days. Being right up near the lightsource, the green water should produce more and be thicker than the tank, all things constant. If OTOH it is reduced, eureka -- a first sign of hope for you.
The difference in conditions between the tub and your tank are CO2, filter and source of ammonia. Only 3 possible causes to eliminate, instead of calling in additional resources, which may complicate the diagnosis of where the problem is.
Try first and see. Don't give up.
Edit: What is OTOH??
Last edited by Justikanz; 10th Jul 2006 at 22:23.
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haha yea man... wat's OTOH?
by the way, my tank is a 3x1.5x1.5ft...
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OTOH is "On The Other Hand" sorry for the short form. The sentence should read
If on the other hand it is reduced, eureka -- a first sign of hope for you.
Don't give up, try by process of elimination, where the cause of your green water lies in. Then move in to eliminate that cause and move on from there.
On the other hand, I'm trying to grow green water to breed monia. What I've succeeded is a smelly concoction that somedays smell like vomit and on others, smell like faeces. Very little green water sigh.
Last edited by Justikanz; 11th Jul 2006 at 16:55.
Warm regards,
Lawrence Lee
brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Philippians 4:8
haha its funny when one man's trash is another man's treasure applies even in our tanks... haha
anyway, thanks for the advise...
Last edited by Justikanz; 11th Jul 2006 at 16:55.
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