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    Endler's Livebearers

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    Hi Folks....

    I think quite a number of you know that I've sort of stopped keeping the beloved apistos and switched to endlers.....its been some time since the endlers have been in my tank...

    Just want to share some horrible pics....


    New Mint, Top Yellow Sword


    Solid Red Line peacock, still in the bag


    Half Tuxedo, Center Peacock


    A beautiful Tiger hybrid which DOA


    Fry Pics


    A typical female
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    nice endler....keep up on this hobby
    Last edited by Justikanz; 8th Aug 2006 at 16:33. Reason: There's no need to quote all the pictures... Especially since you are just the next post...

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    Thanks jo !!!
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    have you ever had an albino form cacatuoides?, as a freak i started getting the odd one earlier this year, they look good too.
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    what do you feed your fries with..???
    my endlers just given birth and i'm afraid the fries will die of hunger...heheee..
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    baby brime shirmps..
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    for the 1st few days, you can feed with sera's micron for fry....its protein-rich powder....

    Mick: I started off with 3 pure strains and 1 tiger hybrid....I don't really fancy albino fishes of any kind...hmm.... you seem to have your hands wet with lots of different types of fish!! hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickthefish
    have you ever had an albino form cacatuoides?, as a freak i started getting the odd one earlier this year, they look good too.
    mick

    Yes, there are albino form...especially they can bred out from the hybrid endlers.
    It happens to me from few batches of fries of the snake ...found a few albino type fries that look totally different from the rest....
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    Hi bros,

    Reviving an old thread here....like to share that I've just received endlers from US this morning, these are wild caught specimens which are to be used in research studies....all arrived safely in a styrofoam box, will try my best to take decent photos later
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    Wow... Not bad, your interest in Endlers still around.

    By the way, what happened to the picture links in post #1?
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    Directly from US? That must have cost a hole in your pocket.

    What strains are they? Same strains?

    Do try to keep the line if possible and not hybridise them. I am sure many would be very interested in the offsprings.

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    I've removed the earlier pics to free up space to upload new pics...hehe

    Here are the fellows who just arrived:

    Wild Caught Specimens, assorted peacocks


    Top Green Sword


    By the way, I'm still keeping and breeding my most beloved Tuxedo endler in my tank
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    Alamaks... assorted? Then you will probably get "chapalang" offsprings. What a pity.

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    Quixotic: These are wild caught specimens, they are not line-bred therefore each of them are different from one another....the ones you see in the market now are line-bred, meaning the breeders develop a certain strain and line breed it to produce same offsprings.....wild specimen no good meh???
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    Maybe I got confused, but aren't different strains collected at different locations? Got to go re-read some of the stuff...

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    Nope, strains are developed by breeders not by locations....endlers are unlike other fishes like apistos.....the color strains are selectively bred by man and the line continues in order to produce offsprings which takes after their parents.... these are called line-bred endlers....different from wild caught endlers...
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    Wild caught Endlers will also have strains. Just less obvious. The females are the ones who will decide the strain for a locality as they will have preference what coloured males to mate... The only thing is, Endlers are not really found in as many localities as, say, an apistogramma species... Thus, there are not many local strains and thus far, such 'strains' look similar. I remember reading an article on a collection trip and seeing the pictures of the different 'strains'...

    Man 'made' strains are usually so in-bred, there is a consistant pattern and colour...
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    yup, i would agree on that.
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    Eman, there are differing populations of Endlers that exist in the lake where they are coming from now. A recent collection in Venezuela yielded nine or more different strains with unique colour and pattern to each of them.

    Oh yes, the collector's name was Armando Pou. I'm not sure where you got yours, but I think they came from a seller on Aquabid..

    By the way, when it comes to livebearers, only the really wild stuff interest me. Like Xiphophorus montezumae, and the Limia species. Too bad these wild-type livebearers don't have much colours, or flashy traits to make them interesting to Singapore importers.
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    Fish.. Simply Irresistable
    Back to Killies... slowly.

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    JY, the colour strains have very little difference leh, especially for those who are not really looking hard...

    Xiphophorus montezumae ah? The olive green looks ok, what... I love the tail... Can find here? Hee... Going OT liao...
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    I'm crypt collecting... Starting cheap, now have Cryptocoryne beckettii, C.beckettii var petchii, C.crispatula var.balansae, C.griffithii(Melted! ), C.nurii, C.parva, C.pygmaea(Melted! ), C.tonkinensis(Melted! ), C.walkeri, C.wendtii 'Brown', C.wendtii 'Green', C.wendtii 'Green Gecko', C.wendtii 'Tropica' and Cryptocoryne x willisii

    Oh, juggling is hard work, man!...

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