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    Looks to me very much like Betta splendens. Uncle from c328 told me it's from Thailand

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    Isn't the original Betta spendens from Thailand??
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    I sure hope it isn't, because I paid $14 for it.

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    well what were you expecting it to be? there are only a few species of Betta from Thailand. In fact if you can find a certifiable WILD B. splendens it will be priceless.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    More like a B.smaragdina hybrid

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    well what were you expecting it to be?
    I just wanted to know.

    Thanks though guys!

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    you should go and ask for your $14 back!
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    But it's such a beautiful specimen. It's time I stopped a little on plants and focus back on fish-keeping... it was the betta that captivated me into this hobby!

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    Could it be a Betta imbellis?
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    when buying, especially paying quite a bit, for Thai Betta species, buy only from shops who specialise and knows the breeder of the fish. Too many aquarium strains and hybrids around. I mean if you like hybrids that's OK, but surely you don't want to pay the price of a "species" for hybrids.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justikanz
    Could it be a Betta imbellis?
    anal fin too long, maybe have B.imbellis blood but who knows.

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    Betta splendens is what that is great species.
    why did you pay 14.00 for it when yuu could have got it for 4..
    Last edited by Justikanz; 14th Aug 2006 at 13:29.
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    it doesn't look like a pure splendens strain either. most likely a smaragdina/splendens hybrid that's why they sell it as a novelty.
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Yes I know, but I bought it anyway because it looked nice to me. The picture doesn't do it justice, there're some colours and patterns on the finnage that wasn't captured.

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    Well, as long as you find it pretty and well worth the money, its ok.
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    Is there such a thing as wild Betta Splendens?

    I believe the Betta Splenden was created via cross breeding with the ugly original betta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firethorn
    Is there such a thing as wild Betta Splendens?

    I believe the Betta Splenden was created via cross breeding with the ugly original betta.

    of course there is such a thing as wild Betta splendens, why do you think it has a latin name? have you wondered why your parrot fish, luohans, and strange cichlids have no latin names?

    have you seen an "original" "betta"? what makes you think it is ugly? do you even have an idea what is an "original betta"?
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    of course there is such a thing as wild Betta splendens, why do you think it has a latin name? have you wondered why your parrot fish, luohans, and strange cichlids have no latin names?

    have you seen an "original" "betta"? what makes you think it is ugly? do you even have an idea what is an "original betta"?
    Dear sir what are you being so hostile?

    I was confused with an article suggesting Betta Pugnax being the original Betta and the Splenden Species being a hybridization between similar Betta genus.

    That being said, I have seen an original Betta Splenden. As well as Betta Pugnax. A very ugly version with pale and patchy skin albeit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firethorn
    Dear sir what are you being so hostile?

    I was confused with an article suggesting Betta Pugnax being the original Betta and the Splenden Species being a hybridization between similar Betta genus.

    That being said, I have seen an original Betta Splenden. As well as Betta Pugnax. A very ugly version with pale and patchy skin albeit.

    I am hoping there is an aquarist under the ignorance. being ignorant is not wrong, nobody knows everything, but I want to know if you are truly interested in them, or only interested in repeating what you have read or heard.

    I can assure you, you have been fed misinformation. I am also quite sure you have not seen an "original" Betta splendens (note how the word splendens is never capitalised?). and quite definitely, the B. pugnax (note how pugnax is also never capitalised) you saw is not in the best of health.

    If you are truly interested in knowing why I am so sure, then I am happy to welcome you to the wonderful world of "real" Betta, beyond the crowntails and halfmoons.

    ps: I am not really hostile, consider it a hard nudge
    why I don't do garden hybrids and aquarium strains: natural species is a history of Nature, while hybrids are just the whims of Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwchoy
    I am hoping there is an aquarist under the ignorance. being ignorant is not wrong, nobody knows everything, but I want to know if you are truly interested in them, or only interested in repeating what you have read or heard.

    I can assure you, you have been fed misinformation. I am also quite sure you have not seen an "original" Betta splendens (note how the word splendens is never capitalised?). and quite definitely, the B. pugnax (note how pugnax is also never capitalised) you saw is not in the best of health.

    If you are truly interested in knowing why I am so sure, then I am happy to welcome you to the wonderful world of "real" Betta, beyond the crowntails and halfmoons.

    ps: I am not really hostile, consider it a hard nudge
    I know that for all Latin names, the first letter of the Genus begins with a capital and the rest are small. But I like writing them both in caps because it sort of puts the words as one.. :P

    Perhaps I have not seen an original Betta splendens. But i sure did see one that looked the way it was described in an article..

    My favourite types of bettas when I was young was the pale ugly looking Betta splendens that were good fighters if you want to know. I have since moved on though. Because I have a project to produce pretty bettas for frenss and family for Christmas..

    I'm sure you and perhaps I and maybe even the whole community here can appreciate the true Betta splendens whatever it may be(if it so happens that I've never seen it before) but... Normal people only see what they see. Pretty is pretty. Ugly is ugly.

    So forgive me if I do breed pretty bettas.
    Last edited by Justikanz; 17th Aug 2006 at 02:18.

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