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    hi guys. may i know anyone of you uses anti-algae solution here? which brand is good? there are so many brands but i duno which to buy.

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    Never used, never will. It may affect fauna and flora. And it is better to control the algae problem at source! If such magic solution exists that will cure problem forever, I guess all of us will be using!

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    I find household bleach to be a cheap and good anti-algae liquid. Dilute 1:20, soak in this solution for 5-6 mins with constant agitation, rinse and soak 30 mins in water with high ratio of antichlorine. Return to tank and let the shrimps do the rest.

    Any other liquid that you pour into the tank will risk doing damage to fauna, not to mention flora.

    Bleach is harsh, but at least, you don't pour it into the tank, then regret when you see the result.

    As usual, listen to the old timers first. You know... the "get plants to grow first" advise, it is really true.
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    A better idea is to grow the plants, then you don;t have algae.

    That was your original goal I would assume..........and since that did not happen, you got algae and will every time till you address the plant growth.

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    hmm.......maybe i lack some fast growing plants to take reduce the nitrate. i will see what i can do. thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hi, my 2-feetfish tank without CO2 having serious algae too. Set up the tank in Aug and initially no algae problem. Two months later start to spot brownish algae at the glass, then the rocks and plants. As advised by the LFS, bought a bottle of algae remover for $16 and he granteed me that algae will be removed in 5 days time. But it doesn't work at all. Just wondering what is the root of the problem. Fish tank placed near to window and exposed to some sunlight. Have another small fish tank away from sunlight is doing fun. Currently, I have to do water change, washing rock and buy new plants weekly. Pls advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Lee View Post
    Hi, my 2-feetfish tank without CO2 having serious algae too. Set up the tank in Aug and initially no algae problem. Two months later start to spot brownish algae at the glass, then the rocks and plants. As advised by the LFS, bought a bottle of algae remover for $16 and he granteed me that algae will be removed in 5 days time. But it doesn't work at all. Just wondering what is the root of the problem. Fish tank placed near to window and exposed to some sunlight. Have another small fish tank away from sunlight is doing fun. Currently, I have to do water change, washing rock and buy new plants weekly. Pls advise.
    take it away from the window i guess
    you have a light for that tank?

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    It is true that you must find the root of your trouble. Many people are able to set up a tank which stays stable, algae minimal (you can never eradicate it 100%, someone who claim no algae in his tank is pathetic) which last for months even years. If they can, so you can as well.

    For last resort, I have tried (as a newbie) several algaecide, and believe me they do more harm than any good. The mildest bad effect with best result I have tried back then is JBL algol, while the other brands seems to be destructive, some even contain a large dose of Cu that it can kill your fish and shrimps!

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    So spend the time and energy, not to mention $ on the growth of the plants, figure out what they need and then go about supplying that.

    It's not hard and it's less labor than dealing with algae.

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    well... 100% algae free is like impossible imho
    you can't get rid of it totally, and it will come eventually
    but just maintain a good balance to try to minimise it
    if you have to look hard to find the algae in your tank then its doing pretty well already

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    Do you consider CAU, my tanks, ADA's tanks etc algae free?
    Folks keep up on things and no longer have visible signs of algae, it's not impossible at all.

    I've also had non CO2 plants tanks that never even needed the glass wiped for months at a time.

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    Hi Tom,

    What I meant was that I felt that its impossible to say a tank is 100% algae-free, but that we can have a tank that has no visible algae.

    No visible algae doesnt equal no algae. =)

    I've seen algae even in Amano's tanks. Saw in in his scape pics in the ADA 2006 catalogues. But you would barely be able to notice it. I didn't see it until someone else tipped off on it.

    What you can't see doesnt mean it isn't there.

    But I fully agree that we can definitely have tanks that have no visible algae.

    Cheers

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    The hint that Tom was trying to give is : Focus on your plant growth. Spend all your energy on thier growth. This is why we are in this hobby in the first place. Algae will go by themselves.
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    Well, i pruned away all the excess growth with algae, then use ARISTA anti algae (buy the concentrate one) then buy like 2-300 shrimps!!! VOILA... does the job by initial reduction thereafter quite good control...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Lee View Post
    Currently, I have to do water change, washing rock and buy new plants weekly. Pls advise.
    Reduce your fish load. Increase your plant load. Shade your tank more from the sunlight and stop your water change.

    Algae will be in control.
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    hmmm hey jim hob. so you do think the arista anti algae is useful? how much does one bottle cost???

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    Take care of the plants and they will take care of the fish and algae.. use Flourish, KNO3, P2SO4, CO2 with reactor, not too much surface movement and whatever you think will do the plants good, tht's the secret. Also, having 3 fishes in my 400L tank helps..
    There will be no more deaths after the holocaust. Of course, having 3 fishes in my 400L tank helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakchew View Post
    hmmm hey jim hob. so you do think the arista anti algae is useful? how much does one bottle cost???
    No, no anti algae stuff is of use unless it grows plants, Excel falls into that latter group........hence the only reason I suggest folks use it for control, that and it's particularly mild on plants at proper label dosing.

    Adding more is actually not required although some think so without doing a control.

    I can sel, copper sulfate as an anti algae "cure", it's a very old anti plant and anti algae chemical. It's about the dose, the larger things will not suffer as much as the smaller things.

    Obviously none of this helps the plants grow better does it?

    I'm trying to show folks that indirect growth of the plants will knock out algae, not killing algae directly.

    That's where folks miss the boat.

    I have lots of fish, buit also lots of well growing plants, why?
    Because I take care of my plants, getting rid of algae does not solve this critical issue.

    Many newbies and folks frustrated with algae do not want to hear this.


    But they will keep having issues unless they first address the plant growth issue, the algae is just a symtom of the poor plant growth.

    Once you have good conditions for plant growth, then you can killt eh algae very easily and successfully and keep it away.

    I'm not lying to you folks, I have no motivation to do so nor would I mislead someone on this issue.

    So focus on the growth of the plants first, then worry about the algae that's left after you prune the algae off, and remove it by hand, otherwise all the labor you spend on removal is wasted if it grows back 2 days later because you have not addressed the plant growth issue.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr

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    woh~ thanks Tom. sounds very sophiscated but i think i get what u meant. actually i had a very happy tank but i tried to alter things here and there and now i got myself into a lot of algae. now my ph is out of control too. so frustrated now that i am intending to tear down my tank and redo again! shall see how my plants grow then. give them one more week!

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    I also believe in removing algae without using chemical but through a well balanced regime.

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